Discussion: Evidence In Oregon Refuge Trial Includes 13,000 Photos, 6,000 Hours Of Video

The defense argued that it was overwhelmed by the volume of discovery material.

That’s what happens when your clients spent every waking hour posting online. Guess the dipshits didn’t realize the downside to ammosexual twitter meltdowns.

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I just completed jury duty on a case that took all of 6 partial days to present and 2 hours to decide - and that was for 4 serious crimes. I truly pity the jurors selected for this trial since it’s bound to be filled will hours of tedious testimony, delays, and political shenanigans by the defendants. The disruption to the lives of these people, who will be called upon, and agree to do, their civic duty, is one more reason to to loathe these flea bag “patriots”.

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The defense argued that it was overwhelmed by the volume of evidence of the defendants’ guilt.

We all were.

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I can only hope that the damage done to Native American’s sacred land is the conviction that keeps them in prison till the end of their days.

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The defendants are building a solid case that they’re incapable of understanding the consequences of their own actions.

Granted, it’s not much of a defense, but you go with what you’ve got.

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“Your Honor, were the actions of my client the actions of a sane man? Of course not. The defense rests.”

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I realize we have little sympathy for the defendants in this case, but this tactic by the government is a problem in many prosecutions. They deliver a tidal wave of documents, most of which they have no intention of presenting in court.

Their hope is that the defense will not be able to examine all of it in time for the trial and thus be unprepared for the one needle in that haystack that they need to prepare a defense against. That needle could be false, misleading, or selectively edited but it would be enough for a conviction if the defense isn’t prepared to explain why it’s false, misleading or selectively edited.

Guess they shouldn’t have counted on a right-wing billionaire to pay their bills then.

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That is a common tactic anytime there’s a ‘big guy v. little guy’ case. But those 250,000 FB pages didn’t write themselves.

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Now, when they are convicted–and they WILL be convicted–I don’t want any suspended sentences or fines, I WANT JAIL.

Jail in the worst shithole Oregon’s got.

This is not vindictive. These guys do not HAVE a pot to piss in. You can’t take away what they do not have.

But they DO have lives. You can take away chunks of THAT.

And since they are convinced all black men are ni(CLANG!), I want them to be surrounded by them. At all times of the day; the ravening black horde; no guns.

They won’t get a good night’s sleep for months. MONTHS!

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Absolutely. The defendants seem to have been quite forthcoming with documenting their bravado that constitutes their crimes. Discovery is what handed the evidence to the DA. They have only themselves to blame. The hardest part for the prosecution is organizing the evidence. They don’t have to do fancy filings as the original commenter suggests.

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But if the prosecution is more selective, they’re opening themselves to a charge of concealing evidence. It’s not really up to the prosecution to decide what evidence might be germane to the defendants, and hold the rest of it back.

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Really. The Nazis did the same thing. The researchers for the prosecution at the Nuremberg Trails were amazed at how much documentation existed of their crimes. One of them said “It’s downright perverse.”

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Like Nixon keeping the tapes.

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Years, if there is any justice in the world.

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Ammon Bundy’s new lawyer, Marcus Mumford, said that he was still trying to “get up to speed.”
In other words, he is waiting for the check to clear.

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If this trial is going to drag on that long the Bundy’s petition for concealed carry while in jail should really be addressed.

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Ted from scrubs : Ted: Oh, come on! A good lawyer couldn’t win this case!!!

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this is a Federal trial… Supermax anyone?

btw… is the defense underwhelmed at the lack of material to mitigate the allegations?

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