Discussion: Even After All The Email Attention, Hillary Still Leads Entire 2016 Field

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High water raises all boats. Lots of Dems will get swept in next election.

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There will be eleventy gazillion four humbolt and kasixty vakillion billion thousand and two presidential polls between Now time and Election Day 2016, and in the end each of them will fall into one of two distinct piles:

  1. the pile made up the Lying Pollsters to serve the Lies their Lying owners wish to spread to make maximum tax deductible cash loot money moolah off the Base, and

  2. the other pile where each and every one will say within one standard deviation pretty much the same essential thing this CNN poll says.

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Yep. Vegas sets odds to make sure the money is even on both sides. Media does the same with candidates. The money is made in the drama. So drama WILL happen.

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Iā€™m no fan of Herself, but I think Ed Kilgoreā€™s analysis of 2016 is pretty damn realistic. This makes 2016 for the US very much like 1933 was for a certain central European country, where a ā€œcharismatic oratorā€ beat the somewhat lackluster advocate of government-as-it-existed. The next 12 years didnā€™t really ā€œwork outā€ as history demonstrated. The thought of any of the Republican shitheads being in the White House with a Republican Senate and House (just remember, their gerrymandering is just getting started, so don;'t bank on a ā€œpresidential year demographicā€) is enough to make me renew my passport early and consider banking in the Bahamas. Itā€™s definitely enough for me to invest in a clothespin on the way to the precinct.

Nice to hear, but the serious ratfucking hasnā€™t even started yet.

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It is pretty simple to meā€¦the GOP cries wolf so much now, even if there is something, no one is ever going to believe them. They have made themselves out to be the ā€œalarmistā€ 26% of the public who hates all things CLINTON.

As a not huge Clinton fan myself, but from an entirely different direction, I donā€™t think they quite get how much the public despises them, because they stay fairly tight inside their bubbleā€¦ā€œThe Rove Shieldā€ is what I call it.

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Where have you been since 1991?

The email scandal seems like a strategic attack by the GOP, who realized they could manufacture a scandal out of this months ago after going through the Benghazi documents. They strategically timed the scandal for March by providing the evidence to the New York Times to hit Hillary just before she is expected to announce her campaign in April.

If this is the best they could come up with the GOP is screwed. Nobody is perfect about segregating work and personal email, and nobody except the rabid rightwingers who hate her anyway gives a shit about this email controversy.

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These polls are absolutely worthless. Remember, at this time in 2006 everyone was talking about inaugurating President Giuliani.

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Theyā€™ll have Netanyahu make a speech to Congress. Thatā€™ll fix her.

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Iā€™m sure it helps that most Republicans are so old they donā€™t know what email is.

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CNN was surprised by the results after weeks of email coverageā€¦ so they committed to redouble their efforts until she falls 10 points in the polls.

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HRC has polled at these levels vs (name any Ā® here) since 2012.
Another ā€˜spackle pollā€™-- filling the cracks until Nov 1st 2016.

jw1

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Nobody who was politically aware during Billā€™s Presidency will be swayed one way or the other. Those who came of age politically after that might be fooled for a while but youā€™d almost have to wish to be fooled after hearing all the idiiotic things the ratfuckers said about President Obama.

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Yes, and the Polls in Israel said Bibi would lose, too. So much for polls.

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The Republicans have been whining about everything Clinton since the 90s. To me, it has become like white noise.

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I donā€™t worry about the GOP, I worry about the press, they really lose their minds with her. She canā€™t seem to order a pizza without Wolf Blitzer and Ariana Huffington asking why she has to be so difficult by ordering pepperoni AND mushrooms.

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Be careful-you donā€™t want to miss bed check.

shoot the messenger.