Discussion: Embattled Northam Drags His Heels As Democrats Seek To Push Him Out

Are
You
Fucking
Kidding
Me

Where am I? What century is this?

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Really? Well, here’s two, but don’t expect me to keep this up all day. The number of Democrats who have censured racist behavior outnumbers Republicans by far.

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Is he standing alone in the face of many dozens of Democrats, both national and in his own state, calling of him to step down? Will he have an adverse impact on the State and National party? Will he now be able to govern effectively with the anchor–of his making–tied to his neck? Will it give his opponents ample ammunition to use against him? Those are just some of the political calculations.

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Excellent point. However, that doesn’t undermine the argument that Northam may be a friend of minorities NOW.

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Are you serious in asking that question?

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Just so it’s clear

Do you think that blackface is akin to costuming?

#yesorno

These are different cases. Similarity is in very obvious dirty trick push, both in timing and fanning the fire. I was against Franken’s resignation and I am against Northam’s resignation.

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And seeing that we might be changing positions, am i supposed to be looking for Republicans going after their own?

Again, yes or no

No, and you’ve missed my point. I’m not defending what he did 30 years ago. What someone did 30 years ago should not be the only yardstick. Got it?

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Ummmm, you need to scroll back

Because it is.

It’s demeaning, insulting, crude, and promotes a stereotype that is unacceptable in today’s America.
The shame is that it was ever considered okay.

By the way—put down the shovel.

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It doesn’t matter. Even even you ignore everything else, you can’t possibly ignore the political damage he’ll bring to the party by staying.

In a perfect would, someone whole career would be paramount. Politics and perceptions, much as you might wish it to not be so, rule the day though. Those are simply the realities of this world.

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How about someone conveniently forgetting to mention or own up to what they did 30 years ago while running for high public office, and then fumbling the resulting fallout after being outed?

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The democratic party has become too pure and intolerant for a lot of people.
We need a Centrist party that would incorporate liberal republicans, and middle-road democrats (aka people with common sense).

I felt that Franken deserved an investigation, and I also feel that this deal with Northam is way overblown.

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Yes. Polls are so accurate.

I see Senators, Supreme Court Justices, Governors, that actively interfere with voting rights of African-Americans and other minorities. I see Governors, Mayors, Police Commissioners who approve of violence against African-Americans. Those are racists. Some guy, putting on the back face 30 years ago, stupid maybe, racist, no. His life, as a physician, as a politician was scrutinized, and he should be judged on his life record, not some silly picture.

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When the primaries start I would expect the Republicans to raise Northam if they think it will advance their cause. It will only advance their cause if they think they can create discord between Democratic factions. Do you think they can use Northam to generate a split between Democratic factions? If so, how? Which factions?

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