More proof that Elizabeth Warren is just another warmongering Wall Street establishment $hill! /s
Hey Trumpvillians and Baggerlandians:
You should be!
Where was the event? When did the event occur?
Trump’s looking more and more peevish, while Warren is looking more and more Veepish.
Watching the weekend shows it is pretty clear that the establishment is pushing Tim Kaine, a good solid DLC type from Virginia who is known primarily for his fundraising chops. He is sure to turn off the progressives, but what the hell, that money from Wall Street trumps everything, just ask the folks in London how much their money against Brexit really counted.
LOVE that poster! Imma gonna save it!!
PREDICTION I HOPE IS WRONG
Clinton’s VP pick will inform voters as to her perception of the voting bloc she needs and or doesn’t need to win the presidency.
I believe she will choose a centrist and or non-controversial running mate like Tim Kaine. I think that campaigning with Warren is a dog and pony show of party unity because either Clinton doesn’t want Warren as her VP or because Warren doesn’t want the job.
Because Donald Trump is so thoroughly disliked by the majority of Republicans and all Democrats, I don’t think she feels she “needs” leftist liberals, progressives and independents (Sanders supporters) who would aggressively “rock the boat” in a sea of corporate elitism to defeat Trump.
Her supporters will claim, she’s just playing it smart/safe and is just making sure that Donald Trump doesn’t win the presidency.
I believe it is her intention to treat liberals, progressives and independents in the same ways that Obama did. I believe she wants to ignore them, betray their values and deny influence to the 40%+ of Democratic primary voters who voted for Sanders in order to remain in the good graces of the bankers, wall street, CEOs and multi-national corporate conglomerates who have financed her luxurious personal lifestyle and her presidential campaign…AT THE EXPENSE OF WORKING CLASS AMERICANS!
I really, really hope she proves me wrong!
Sen. Kaine is pretty well-regarded here in Virginia. He was a good, moderate governor who is exactly like you say: middle-of-the-road DLC type. I will add, though, that’s fairly socially progressive. He doesn’t wear it on his sleeve, but he’s a good guy that I’d be happy with. No, he’s not an Elizabeth Warren or a Bernie Sanders, but he’s still not a bad choice by a long shot.
Clinton & Warren really fires me up. Wish I could be there in Ohio.
I hope you are wrong too. FYI, I’d love to see Warren as VP – but if she doesn’t get the nod, I don’t think it would be over petty reasons or that HRC is selling out progressives. This election offers a uniquely dangerous choice on the GOP side and I know that HRC and the democratic establishment – which includes Senator Warren – fully understand what is at stake. Their main responsibility now is to WIN this election – so the choice of VP will have to offer significant advantage in that endeavor. If Warren isn’t the choice, it will be because she doesn’t want that role and that its determined that its more advantageous for her to act as an independent surrogate and as a strong ally in the Senate. If its Time Kaine, it won’t be because he is “safe and boring” or Castro because he is “hispanic” – it will be because that is where the democratic base most needs shoring up.
Thanks for your first hand observations. Truth is, many people nationally just don’t have a strong sense of Kaine. And the one thing that sticks in my mind as a negative is that he was anti-abortion (although he’s changed this for political reasons.) Not sure this fits well with the argument for electing the first woman president.
I like the idea behind the poster – but for maximum effect, I’d change the layout and place the two women side by side at the same size – facing straight forward and looking right at us.
On Monday, Warren will join Clinton for their first joint event at a rally in Cincinnati.
It’s in the article. If you’re looking for details, it helps to read beyond the headline.
Yeah, the choice issue is a biggie to me. If someone isn’t pro-choice (politically-speaking), they won’t get my vote. He is personally “pro-life,” but won’t push his beliefs on others by way of legislation, etc. I can respect that. There have been other Dems like this but, again, don’t wear their social beliefs on their sleeve. To me, that can be rather appealing … so long as I know what they’d do in an administrative/legislative manner.
Another person I hope will be considered for a prominent role in an HRC administration is Loretta Lynch. She is a strong and effective advocate for civil rights and her speech in defense of Transgender rights is a stand out:
That is what we need in an anti-establishment year, a good moderate who is well connected with big money.
Do you think liberals, progressives and independents are the most or least necessary bloc of the Democratic base?
Assume the spectre of a Donald Trump presidency isn’t being “used” to persuade Sanders’ supporters to vote for Clinton rather than voting for no one or someone other than Clinton. Would you rather have the contributors to Clinton’s personal wealth and her political campaign have more or less influence over her presidency than liberals, progressives and independents to her left? Should the financial interests of the right have more influence than the financial interests of working class Americans?
I don’t believe Trump is the worry. I think he’s being used as an excuse to justify denying the legitimate active participation of liberals, progressives and independents.
Does anyone believe that Trump would win if Clinton had the full support and participation of the 40%+ of Democratic primary voters who voted for Bernie Sanders?!
Jesus H. Christ on a bun, Donald Trump whose claim to fame is being a billionaire, is painting Hillary as being one of the elite. There is a reason he is doing that. This year people feel the elite has been screwing them. A lot of those people are in the Republican base, but a lot are also in the progressive base. Trump wants to lock up the 22 percent of Bernie voters who say they don’t think she is for them and they might vote for him. Sometimes you have to rock the boat to keep it afloat. Right now millions of Americans feel the same pain as the millions of Brits who just voted to cut off their noses to spite their faces. Picking a nice safe fundraising guru who is well connected with the elite sends the message that Hillary doesn’t need sent in the general. She needs to be seen as a populist. Tim Kaine is exactly the wrong pick.
IF DEFEATING TRUMP IS CLINTON’S PRIMARY OBJECTIVE, WHY WOULDN’T SHE AGREE TO PROVIDE SANDERS AND HIS SUPPORTERS WITH THE PROPORTIONAL INFLUENCE THEY ARE ASKING FOR TO INSURE VICTORY?
Does anyone honestly believe that Trump would win if Clinton had the full support and active backing of the 40%+ of Democratic primary voters who voted for Bernie Sanders?! Didn’t Sanders going from 3% in the polls to 42.8% in the polls prove anything to the Democratic Party?
Isn’t that the smartest, surest and most uniting means for defeating Donald Trump?
Why then would Clinton Democrats refuse to do that if, as so many of them are claiming, Clinton is a liberal and progressive Democrat?