Discussion: Dems Won't Immediately Demand Trump's Tax Returns

As Donnie Jr. hustles down the street to have H.R. Block see what they can do…

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My inner voice is saying for FFS, do it!

I am trying to apply wisdom and steady hand thinking here, but I agree with you. Gut is saying do it, get it done, let the games begin, bring on the lions, finish him!

“Politico reported that Neal may wish to work with the Trump administration on areas of tax policy, and wouldn’t want to blow up the relationship with the tax return fight. Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin is expected to deny the request, leading to a court battle.”

If you have termites in your house, do you stand about wondering how you can work together to a comfortable end or call in the Nukes (Um pest control guys)? Do they expect anything less than this ending up in court? Just get it done and to the next act.

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What Dump will see as “presidential harassment” is actually “constitutionally sanctioned oversight.”

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The bashful toadstool effect.

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Notice where Mr. Neal is from, it accounts for even temperedness. Right?

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Agreed. For any Democrat to expect to deal with anyone in this “administration” in good faith, is laughable. This “administration” is littered, top to bottom, with pieces of sh!t. There should be no pretense here. Attack this mother effer. Go for the jugular. End this.

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At first I wanted Neal to do it immediately. But now I think how delicious it is to have Toadglans sit and fret. Frog meet pot of water, warming ever so slowly.

They say he doesn’t sleep much. I wonder why?

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One of the easiest ways to catch a prey …

is to set the traps at ’ dinner ’ time —

Oh …

and you should never go shopping when you are hungry

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It’s the first 15 minutes of day one. I think that each committee chair should give the administration till close of business friday to demonstrate that they’re suddenly going to act in good faith.

And then bring the hammer down.

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I agree wit this. Seems like everyone should lay low until Trump caves on the shutdown.

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On the one hand, I can rant and rave and throw poop and cover my keyboard in spittle about wah wah why won’t they do it now!!!1 Big conspiracy, probably! Or corrupt! Money in politics! Eleven!

On the other hand, I try to keep sight of my own limits of knowledge and competence, and I assume Democratic leadership knows politics better than I do.

All I’m saying is, Dunning-Kruger ain’t just for the dotard. Hell if I know how to work the levers of popularity and power. I just go out and vote.

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I don’t think Neal has made the case for making the case. It is a basic precept of democratic government that our public servants must disclose their private financial interests. The longer you make the case for this, the more you undermine the basic precept. Next thing we know, Democrats will be saying, “It’s true that Mueller reported that Trump ran his campaign in cahoots with a foreign adversary and sold US interests for private profit. But we need to make the case that this is wrong.” Some values are self-evident. Basic financial transparency is one such thing–particularly in the case of a mogul president who appears to be tailoring US foreign policy for private profit. Democrats need to be absolutely direct and clear about this, not engage in waffling half-measures that will only cloud matters. You won a historic victory in the midterms. Tear off the bandaid.

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The other question that arises is “Which tax returns?” Because trump’s personal 1040 – if his accountants are any good at all – will be fairly short and mostly opaque, with a bunch of deductions and a few sources of income (whatever they called the trump umbrella company) and not much information.

You’ll have to go into the returns of the hundreds or thousands of subsidiary enterprises (some owned just by him, probably others with his kids’ names on them as well) to figure out what’s really going on.

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Leverage is
having a pee tape
having access to tax returns
and not rushing to use it.

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I see what you’re getting at, but headlines of this sort do little to engender a sense of confidence on my part.

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Which tax returns? Any and all tax returns that have a bearing on the financial interests of our public servant, the president. It’s not our fault he chose to hide them in a thousand subsidiaries, like a money launderer. Set up an Anti-Corruption sub-committee. Subpoena all Trump enterprises. Do it now. If we wait till next year, it will become an electoral rallying point for him.

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“[Neal] wants to lay out a case about why presidents should be disclosing their tax returns before he formally forces him to do it,” Ways and Means Committee spokesman Dan Rubin told Politico.

So, what has he been doing the last 2 years?

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And if the report only comes out after the 2020 election for fear of “tainting” the election? I halfway expect that.

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Does that seem ominous in some way? It mostly just seems dumb and mediocre to me.

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I could be that he was not in control of the committee? Mind you, I’m just spit balling here.

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