Discussion: Coulter Flip-Flops On Birtherism: Cruz Not ‘Natural Born Citizen’

You can find this information summarized on Wikipedia, but this comports with my understanding when I looked at this in conjunction with the Obama Birther nonsense:

For persons born between December 24, 1952 and November 14, 1986, a person is a U.S. citizen if all of the following are true:
–The person’s parents were married at the time of birth;
–One of the person’s parents was a U.S. citizen when the person was born;
–The citizen parent lived at least ten years in the United States before the child’s birth;and
–A minimum of 5 of these 10 years in the United States were after the citizen parent’s 14th birthday.

If Mrs. Cruz moved to Canada after her 20th birthday, there is no question that Cruz himself was born a citizen.

Good post.

Apparently the issue is that for Mrs. Cruz to be working in Canada at the time makes her status murky. Allegedly, she naturalized to bring Papa in on a spousal visa, if so, she would have had to renounce her US citizenship as dual citizenship was illegal at the time of Teds birth…

The plot thickens, this is going to take a lot of popcorn…

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Attention seeking hags gotta be haggy!!

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NYT: Cruz was born outside the U.S. to 1 American parent: "Under the Constitution this makes him a ‘natural born citizen.’” Absolutely false

Someone who lies as much as Ann probably can’t help overselling her assertions, but it is true that the Constitution does not elaborate on what a natural-born citizen is. It does not say whether one citizen-parent is necessary or sufficient. So if the NYT actually said that, then that is specifically incorrect.

You have to look at federal statute, specifically 8 U.S.C. § 1401 subsection (g). It has been amended since Cruz was (supposedly) born. The issue is not about Canada, it is specifically:

  • Before he was born in Canada, did his mother spend at least ten years in the U.S., five after the age of 14?

For example, if she was 18 at the time he was born, it would be mathematically impossible for her to “confer” citizenship. Same thing if she was 20, but spent twelve years total living outside the U.S. (e.g. school abroad, parents worked overseas [except for the U.S. government, that counts], etc)

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How much is Trump paying her?

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As I said above, this will take buckets of popcorn…

I’m starting to think Hillary looking into Area 51 and Trump’s obsession with birthplace isn’t coincidental - could this be Donald’s way of deflecting questions about where he really is born?

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Coulter criticizing someone else for being a crank?
Really?
(pounds head on desk)

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Coulter once showed up for a talk at the University where I taught. She was in the middle of her speech, talking tough, when 2 students pitched creme pies at her. Whereupon she fled the stage in abject fright.

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Which is why the anti Obama birthers insisted Obama was born in Kenya (which makes no damn sense for a 17 year old US citizen to travel to Africa for her first child’s birth - but such considerations have yet to stop some); if he was, and his mother was age 17/18 at his birth, she could not have conferred citizenship upon her son.

Birthers made a big honking deal, making up fake Kenyan BCs and everything - out of Obama’s birthplace for this reason.

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It’s “Rafael Edward”, not Teodoro - not Teodoro by any stretch, either. Raf, or Rafe, or Rafa, or Rafi, or Repulsive Dickwad, any of those would be more apt.

And Coulter has since bitched endlessly about how liberals have destroyed American universities since.

Honestly: the best way to get someone to STF is ignoring them. If no one showed up to a Coulter confab, she would also run away in fright.

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After a little digging, I came across this

Cruz appears to be legit…

It is still going to be fun to watch…

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Cruz probably turned her down for a tryst, so she had to exact revenge. I can’t understand how anyone would ever turn down the chance to be up close with Miss Cuddles.

Nothing much in the way of natural about Ann Coulter, either, but on the main story: hahahahahaha!!!

I love it when chickens come home to roost.

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So this of no consequence to Cruz (or Obama), regardless as he was born way before 1986? Just because you reside abroad, you don’t give up your U.S. citizenship if you are naturally born.

The reason I question any of this is that my daughter was born abroad, to a foreign mother, and registered right away with the embassy. The verbiage on the form as of 1997 was rather vague merely stating a “registered live birth.” They keep giving her passports, so I guess she’s a U.S. citizen.

If it never changed and that’s not what it actually meant in the 50s and 60s…that would explain the discrepancy.

Love it!

President Obama got nothing but grief being born in the 50th state of Hawaii (you know, since Hawaii is soo foreign). cruz and company screeched and still screeches that he isn’t a natural born citizen.

Now the same clown that was actually born in Canada to a cuban no less is getting his…GOOD!

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Yes, but you satisfied residency requirements…

At least one parent has to…

In my son’s case, the US citizen parent had not satisfied the requirements so my son became a naturalized citizen but not “natural born”…

Edit: And I should add that getting him naturalized was no easy feat.

First the Republican candidates agree that taking over a Federal Wildlife refuge center is “wrong”, then Coulter turns Cruz-birther.

There must be an epidemic of broken timepieces in Freeperspace.

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