Discussion: Cordray Strikes Populist Tone On Tax Day As Ohio Gov Race Heats Up

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You obviously did not see the last debate.

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Kucinich can whip idiots in the crowd into a frenzy — so what? His support of and defense of Trump is disqualifying.

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Calm down. you’re giving her way too much credit. Furthermore, she does not speak Russian.

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but Cordray is serving up weak tea to beer drinkers

That’s not good. At all.

And defending private prisoners? I thought that whole nightmare was buried when Hillary got caught taking donations from Geo Group, one of the largest private prison corps in the country. She quickly returned the donation. Can’t believe that’s still alive.

Your right, it was Our Revolution that endorsed Kucinich. He was an early supporter of Sanders. I’m sure Sanders would love to be there if Kucinich wins.

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But she’s certainly happy to spout off about the “deep state,” and happy to brush off the Russia investigation at every opportunity. You know, just like a good Russia-funded GOP hack would.

Being a usueful idiot instead of a willing participant doesn’t exonerate her.

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Weak tea.

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Better weak tea than a weak general election candidate like Kucinich. Or do you not care about, you know, actually winning?

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Clearly this will help with Kucinich voters. I think Cordray hit the right tone.

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You apparently didn’t watch the debates. Cordray is a horrible candidate pure and simple. Kucinich has a better chance than Cordray only because he is in better touch with the electorate than Cordray is at the moment. I would prefer someone else, but will always vote for the Democrat. Furthermore, more so than the Senator from Massachusetts, Nina Turner is very well liked and respected for what she has accomplished here in Ohio . You won’t hear Cordray calling her a fucking lunatic anytime soon.

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Because Cordray won’t call her a lunatic doesn’t make her any less of one, just like Kucinich’s supporters pretending that his support of Trump never happened doesn’t mean it didn’t.

Interesting development, by the way — earlier this afternoon, the Ohio Ethics Commission demanded that Kucinich disclose the source of payments for his paid speeches, which he failed to include in his required financial disclosure statement. Like Trump indeed.

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He certainly would like her help getting out the vote in Cleveland.

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Kooch is KooKoo, I had hoped we were done with him.

His big platform plank used to be we needed a “Department of Peace”, when we already have that, it’s called the State Dept.

Populism, by the way, isn’t inherently evil. It’s a tool, like a hammer; you can use a hammer to build a house, or to beat someone over the head. You can campaign on a populism of grievance, division and retrenchment as T-Rump and the R’s have for decades, or you can campaign on a populism of common aspiration, which Obama and FDR did. They’re all populism, it’s the ends that differ.

D’s win when they just pay lip service to the moneyed class while talking and listening to the working class, instead of the other way around, because that makes them indistinguishable from R’s. There’s that well-known quote of Harry Truman, the one about the “choice between a genuine Republican, and a Republican in Democratic clothing” (by which he snidely meant D’s who talk like R’s), but while looking to confirm that one, I found this gem from a speech he gave in St. Paul, MN, in Oct. 1948, in support of Hubert Humphrey’s mayoral re-election. THIS is how you do populism properly (notice I didn’t say “right”. Also notice how little things change):

"Today the forces of liberalism face a crisis. The people of the United States must make a choice between two ways of living — a decision which will affect us the rest of our lives and our children and our grandchildren after us.
On the other side, there is the Wall Street way of life and politics. Trust the leader! Let big business take care of prices and profits! Measure all things by money! That is the philosophy of the masters of the Republican Party.
Well, I have been studying the Republican Party for over 12 years at close hand in the Capital of the United States. And by this time, I have discovered where the Republicans stand on most of the major issues.
Since they won’t tell you themselves, I am going to tell you.
They approve of the American farmer — but they are willing to help him go broke.
They stand four-square for the American home — but not for
housing.
They are strong for labor — but they are stronger for restricting labor’s rights.
They favor a minimum wage — the smaller the minimum the better.
They endorse educational opportunity for all — but they won’t spend money for teachers or for schools.
They think modern medical care and hospitals are fine — for people who can afford them.
They approve of Social Security benefits — so much so that they took them away from almost a million people.
They believe in international trade — so much so that they crippled our reciprocal trade program, and killed our International Wheat Agreement.
They favor the admission of displaced persons — but only within shameful racial and religious limitations.
They consider electric power a great blessing — but only when the private power companies get their rake-off.
They say TVA is wonderful — but we ought never to try it again.
They condemn “cruelly high prices” — but fight to the death every effort to bring them down.
They think the American standard of living is a fine thing — so long as it doesn’t spread to all the people.
And they admire the Government of the United States so much that they would like to buy it.
Now, my friends, that is the Wall Street Republican way of life. But there is another way — there is another way — the Democratic way, the way of the Democratic Party."

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Elizabeth Warren is campaigning for Cordray. Does that make her a corporatist, establishment sell-out now?

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***“Does that make her a corporatist, establishment sell-out now?***”

Where do you come off thinking I would say such a thing.

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Just like Cordray saying his support of the NRA never happened doesn’t mean it didn’t.

Choose your poison, my fellow Democrat. Remember, Dennis Kucinich is a Democrat too. He may be a little nutty. But, he has done some good things too. Just as Cordray has. I think one candidate is more in touch with the prevailing public sentiment in Ohio than the other. Let primary voters decide. I will support the winner. I’m sure you will too.

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Except Cordray hasn’t said that.

And he’s never supported Trump like your “good Democrat.”

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What has he said?

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Um, just last week, Cordray said he would not apologize for supporting gun rights, and acknowledged being an NRA supporter. Should he have lied like Kucinich supporters instead?

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Now, your turn — please describe your view of Kucinich’s repeated defense of Trump, criticism of the Russia investigation, and spouting Trump talking points about the “deep state.”

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I will support Cordray if he wins the primary, will you support Kucinich if he wins?

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