Hey media - STOP calling these anti-American thugs militia. This just feeds into their right-wing fantasies. They are no more than an armed mob at best and if they were not rural white people they would be called domestic terrorist. Using the word “militia” and “militiamen”, given their historical context for Americans, gives these armed extremist legitimacy they do not deserve.
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I’m hoping for Monday, January 18, but only because I like the irony of a bunch of white supremacists being forced to surrender on a holiday that they probably think is a ode to political correctness that victimizes their whitey whiteness.
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Too bad they’re not Black…or Muslim. Then, they would feel the full force of government. What injustice is this farce?
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There are Muslims who look “black” (1)
There are Muslims who look “latino” (2)
There are Muslims who look Mediterranean “white” (3)
There are Muslims who look Alpine “white” (4)
There are Muslims who look Asian (5)
(1) Morocco, Nigeria, Sudan, etc.
(2) Morocco to Afghanistan
(3) Spain, France, Italy, Turkey, etc.
(4) Balkan Peninsula, Chechnya, etc.
(5) indonesia, Philippines, etc.
There are hundreds of millions of Muslims who physically DEVIATE from the Hollywood version Americans are hooked on.
Including those who could be Santelli’s twin brother.
You would not be surprised to hear that some of the people here in Oregon are all upset about President Obama’s executive order on gun control. They have bought into this conspiracy of Alex Jones, and claim that the EO is just the first step in declaring martial law and taking away everyone’s guns. I even had someone tell me that even though they had a lot of guns in their home, they did not know how to shoot, but would use the guns as bats to keep them from being taken.
The lunatics, with a real nutjob as a spokesperson, are dangerous, and while it would be easy to laugh at their antics, there are far too many people across this nation who think that they are right. In fact, these kinds of terrorists have been on the rise since 2009, fed by a combination of fear and racism fostered by the likes of Karl Rove, Rupert Murdoch et al, and the Tea Party fanatics in the GOP. They are given a free pass by the press, instead of being called out for what they are - anarchists, terrorists, thieves, and anti-American. These people should have been arrested shortly after they took the refuge buildings, and if a few got shot with non-lethal ammo, maybe they would wake up and realize that real ammo would be coming next, and one of them could die.
I do not want a Ruby Ridge or Waco situation to develop, but that is what they want and they hope that like John Brown in the 1860s they will be remembered as heroes of the civil war by many. They are not HEROES STANDING UP FOR AMERICANS - THEY ARE DOMESTIC TERRORISTS HOLDING PUBLIC (keyword: public, owned by the people) LANDS HOSTAGE! TREAT THEM ACCORDINGLY - ARREST, TRY, CONVICT, AND IF THEY RESIST, SHOOT THEM! (After all, if they were black, Muslim, Hispanic, Asian, Native American, or foreign, that would have already happened, right?)
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Vanilla ISIS should be left to freeze in the dark until they decide to surrender. No phone, no internet, no heat, no light. Predict Lord of the Flies within a month.
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They need to do that, but they’re thinking like city people and civilized human beings who don’t grasp the rape, pillage and plunder relationship with nature that drives these idiots.
If they don’t throw up a perimeter, these idiots will poach every last deer, raccoon, possum, squirrel, songbird, or any other critter that isn’t hibernating they can reach on foot. It is an ideological, hormonal and psychological imperative for them that they do just that. They’re looking forward to it. On the upside, eating the wildlife somewhat increases the chance they’ll end up with some kind of gastrointestinal illness or one of the many diseases that are endemic among small animals in the wild, resulting in a quicker surrender, but it’s really not worth letting them kill all the animals on the chance they’ll make themselves sick.
Also, without a perimeter–and miserable work manning it will be–their fellow idiots will backpack food into them.
They could probably keep the idiots from desertifying the immediate area and prevent smuggling with drone coverage and a quick reaction force rather than a perimeter, but that would up the odds of conflict resulting in dead people, which is the opposite of what they want.
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Or the feds could “supply” them with exploding snacks or bugged energy drink bottles.
Use Marijuana
Then you can ‘smoke a rope’ ----------
This could be a Shakespearean dramedy…
“Beware the lean and hungry look…”
Ammon! Ammon! He’s aimin’ at meeeee!
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I bet most of these fucks don’t even know half of what the constitution even says.
I disagree. The only ending that doesn’t make things worse in the long run is one where they are made to look utterly ridiculous, a “whimper, not a bang” ending where they voluntarily walk into the paddy wagons because they desperately need food or, optimally, Kaopectate, lots and lots of Kaopectate.
The one critical lesson of the Civil War that these idiots have correctly grasped that seems to elude many on the left calling for a crackdown comparable to Ferguson is that nothing causes conservatives to set aside any qualms about the morality and propriety of the means employed by the “hotheads” among those with whom they are ideologically aligned and “pick a side” like an act of violence. And it doesn’t matter who starts shooting. The point, rather, is that shooting has started and “you’re either with us or you’re against us.”
John Brown didn’t set off a slave rebellion or widespread agitation for a forcible end to slavery in the north, because that’s not how most liberals think. But it did have the effect of stamping out every last inclination toward compromise and Unionist sentiment among white southerners and caused a descent into the kind of “‘compromise’ means we get everything we want and, in return, we don’t kill the hostage” mentality that marks the modern right today.
Lincoln’s election led to the secession of seven deep South states and the formation of a CSA that was not, in the long run, viable as a national entity. It took an act of violence to cause the “moderate” southern states to set aside their qualms and pick a side. The provisional Confederate government, and South Carolina in particular, fired on Sumter with malice aforethought for the specific purpose of forcing the other southern states to “pick a side.”
That’s the game these idiots are playing: they want to provoke an act of violence that they think will make those who agree with their ideology, but not their actions, to set aside any qualms they have about the means being employed and pick a side. And pick a side they will. Oh how they will.
The only way to win this game is to make them look ridiculous. There must be consequences, but they must, above all, be made to look ridiculous.
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“They’re here to enforce the supreme law of the land, which is the U.S. Constitution,”
Article Four, section 3, clause 2 of the United States Constitution. “Federal lands are lands in the United States for which ownership is claimed by the U.S. federal government.”
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Right?
They should be treated the same way ANY terrorists should be treated; you contain them, you wait them out, then you arrest and charge and sentence them.
You DON’T do the George Duhhhbya bUsh invasion route a la wholesale slaughter.
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Great analysis. As always. Thanks, Steve.
Jeez, another effin’ constitutional scholar with a GED.
Agreed. Though I’m still hoping the surrender comes because lack of water and/or food leads of an outbreak of gastroenteritis, just to maximize the ridiculousness factor. No ethical way to make that happen, but one can hope.
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what he’s really doing there…HEY LOOK AT ME…Im here too pay attention to me I’m trying to be important too …
If it goes two weeks, the Feds will have to airlift in a pallet of Twinkies as a humanitarian gesture.
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