Discussion for article #224461
GOTV will decide. Tar Heels, don’t be too complacent, too lazy or too busy to vote!
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I never knew libertarians were useful for much besides smoking dope. Go, free markets!! 
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We need this one. If you live in a neighboring state, consider volunteering to canvas, drive folks to the polls.
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Just maybe giving a pass to Duke E after is poisoned the drinking water and THEN wiping out any and all environmental protections in the whole fucking state got thru to the pilgrims in NC that the right wing might not be looking out for them?
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I like to think of Senate elections as statewide IQ tests.
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I’ve been talking to family in NC, as well as other NC residents, and not one of them supports what the GOP and McCrory have been doing.
There is a strong effort underway to defeat as many Republicans as possible there in November.
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Wonder what the Senator thinks about this issue:
“WASHINGTON (NNPA)—Victims who were sterilized in North Carolina between 1929 and 1974—approximately 7,600 people—have until the end of June to file a claim with the state, according to government officials.
The month of June marks the final push to identify victims and their families, who will receive reparations in June 2015 from a $10 million fund. North Carolina is not the first state to publicly acknowledge this practice, but it will be the first state to offer compensation for it”
http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/National_News_2/article_101515.shtml
Gotta ask, what is the point in posting the Margin of Error? It’s completely meaningless. Did the poll that had Cantor up 34 points have a MoE of 45%? If it didn’t, then how can the MoE mean anything at all?
There have been dozens of other polls that have had the final results be outside their margin of error.
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Is that really an “issue” for this election?
It seems NC has admitted their wrong, devised a compensation plan and put it into place.
The NC Senator would not be part of that process in any event. The Senator is a representative to the national government, not a state government official responsible for administering that plan.
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Lots of push polling going on in NC. If the pollster refuses to identify who’s sponsoring or funding the poll, count on FOX sound bites to precede any and all questions.
Yeah. When asked to not consider the libertarian candidate, they evenly split between the GOPer and Democrat. Low-info on display.
Most of our “pilgrims” sat out the 2010 election. 150 straight years of Democratic legislatures, ended by less than 15% turnout.
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Thom Tillis still has a lot of bones to throw the “traditional” electorate and baubles to distract the “outsiders” (read black, Latino and newcomers). Expect a “dog whistle concerto” throughout the summer.
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Buh-bye, 'Bagger.
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I am trying to contain my excitement but maybe the Tea Party and their GOTP appeasers have finally jumped the shark and even in the south, level headed people have had enough of their bullshit.
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If a poll is done incorrectly or sloppy or deliberately misleading or if between polling time and the time it is published major events happened, than neither the poll nor the margin of error mean anything. That will be just bad luck or bad polling.
If everything is done properly, however, the margin of error (which varies mostly with the number of respondents you have in your poll) is standard social science practice to tell you something about the confidence you might have in this poll and the range by which it might be wrong at the time of the polling.
BTW, while polls have been spectacularly wrong at times, they have been correct much more often, and anyone who deceives himself into believing that polls are simply meaningless and mistaken (Romney 2012??) is much more often wrong than not.
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The poll was conducted by Civitas, which is part of the John Locke Foundation, run by Tillis’ boss Art Pope. If they can’t get good results for their own puppet, it doesn’t bode well.
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That isn’t what margin of error means. Its your confidence that the poll numbers are correct.
So in this poll, the pollster is 92% confident that these are the correct answers, based on statistical analysis. They aren’t saying that she is up by somewhere between 10 and 2 percent…they are saying they are 92% confident that she is up by 6 percent.
Which by the way, is really good news. This is one we need to put away.
So what’s the play here?
To show GOPers that voting for the Libertarian will elect a Democrat, so vote for Tillis? To make Tillis the underdog, so that his supporters are more motivated to expand their normal GOTV?
If this is the Tillis campaign’s own pollster, why publicize such results at all, and especially now so early before the election? Methinks it wants to emotionally connect North Carolina Republicans and rightwing independents/libertarians to the ugly situation of Missippi’s GOP, as a warning that the same thing could happen in our state unless everyone unites behind Tillis. Cynically, they may be increasing the Libertarian candidate’s impact on Tillis’ numbers to exacerbate such a concern.