I continue to take exception to TPM or any media calling the 5 REPUBLICAN justices “conservative”. These justices are REPUBLICANS first and little else seems to matter. Which pretty much says why and how they will vote.
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Seems to me that the outcome will be to hurt a number of red states. Texas comes to mind. Florida possibly. I’m not certain that undocumented aliens, or green card holders congregate exclusively in blue states. The agricultural South may also have its populations undercounted.
Unexpected consequences are often totally unexpected.
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All the Democratic candidates should be telling everyone they ask for votes to fill out their written census timely and get 10 people they know to fill out their written census timely. Whether the SCOTUS permits this GOP gambit to ruin cities, or not. Make it so the enumerators don’t even need to visit.
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There was a good article I think in WaPo earlier from the business side of the house, saying PLEASE don’t do this shit, as all sorts of businesses rely on census data to support their business decisions.
Sucks if you target expanding your franchise and the demographics are all wrong, leading to losses…
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Send it to SCOTUS will become the new refrain from Trump/GOP when trying to impose their illegal actions. A lower court strikes down his immigration ban - send it to the SCOTUS; census question - send to SCOTUS. Want to detain children indefinitely - send to SCOTUS.
You think we’re getting Trumps tax returns? No chance. They will say, Send it to SCOTUS and pretty sure we all know what the result will be.
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FIFY
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I always figured it would be bombast and bluster that would kill democracy. Then I figured I was wrong, and it would be minutiae, boring legislative maneuvering, and technical legal decisions that would kill democracy.
Now I see that I am wrong again: it will be both at once.
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Except that the red states will be undercounting the people they do not want to count or who to Republicans do not count.
By undercounting their Brown and Black residents, red states will be able to not only provide less representation in state legislatures but also get around federal law in regard to providing resources like schools and roads.
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The article obliquely suggests that the conservative justices aren’t very bright - deep knowledge of the issue by the liberal justices, etc. Alito, especially is very statistics/science averse. So was Scalia who went to his deathbed conflating evolution with special creation. As I’ve said before, these are not brilliant jurists. One does not gain intelligence through success which does not necessarily indicate a talent behind it.
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Don’t they already do this, anyway?
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This country is such a white supremacy hellhole I don’t know how much longer I can stand it.
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It’s got nothing to do with science. It’s brazenly political. Rightly or wrongly, they’re under the impression that under-counting illegal aliens will benefit red states in the next reapportionment and will, as in Bush v. Gore, Citizens United, and Shelby County v. Holder, reach the end they think will perpetuate Republican rule.
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Is the risk of lying about one’s citizenship on the census less than the risk of not lying and getting deported by the GOstaPo?
They try and too often succeed but not always. This will increase there success.
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Smug, entitled white guys: that’s the majority of the current Supreme Court. Actual human beings lives being considered? Never. Their motto is: if it benefits us, it’s good. If it benefits women or members of minority groups, kill it. And Thomas’s motto is “I got mine; screw you.”
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Every conservative thinks every liberal is a Communist and every liberal thinks every conservative is a fascist.
I’m not hearing anything from those arguments that I did not expect. 5/4 decision, question stays. Time for lunch.
Then non-citizens who live and work here will stop paying taxes. Simple enough. I seem to remember the argument of “No taxation without representation” being a rally cry for the Revolutionary War. It still seems valid today.
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Which means ignoring or denying the science and statistics.
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The most infuriating part will be when Trump and the GOP take the massive drop in self-reported immigrants and claim that it shows what a good job Trump did on illegal immigration and getting rid of the browns.
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It’ll be a little hard to do that when the H1-Bs all have direct deposit. It’s mandatory at most large companies.
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