Discussion: Condoleezza Rice Backs Out Of Rutgers Commencement

Anyone who quotes Rumpole deserves a special commendation and we will raise a glass of Chateau Thames Embankment in your honor sir

Rumpole was (and still is) the best TV lawyer ever! He’d never fit into shows like The Good Wife and Suits because he had no interest in high-dollar litigation. As I recall, the one time he tried, he deliberately lost the case because he found out his client was guilty of what he was being sued for. I miss both Rumpole and McKern, who never gave a bad performance – and I saw him in Help! and The Prisoner when those joints were new.

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UGG! Where you been?!

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Good for the students and faculty of my Alma Mater.

Rutgers is lucky. I had the misfortune of watching Dr. Rice speak, and it was a waste of precious time.

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It’s the poor brain chemistry. Teh crazy is powerful with this one.

I have been around academics for some time. One thing they share with politicians is an overriding belief in their ability to talk their way out of things. A variant of that is a belief in their ability to appeal to disparate groups of people with, essentially, the same message. Newt Gingrich is a perfect example of such a person.

Condi Rice is another.

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Hillary Clinton voted for and endorsed the Iraq war. So did a lot of other Democrats in Congress including John Kerry. And I totally agree with you.

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I want to see the b*tch face a man with a sign that says, “My son died for your hubris.” Or face a woman with a sign that says, “My husband died so your buddies could make a buck.”

I want every one of those b@st@rds to see signs like that, every time the step foot outdoors.

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Condi’s “honorary” cap and gown:

Looks great with Ferragamo shoes!

War criminal decides to not speak at third-rate state school.
Everybody wins.

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She’s at Stanford?
I knew John Yoo is at Berkeley’s Boalt.
Rather undermines the whole “Universities are Liberal” crap the right spews, doesn’t it?
It also makes me very glad I didn’t go to either of those highly dubious institutions. In both cases it’s a vivid demonstration of the old saying “those who can’t do teach”.

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No I wasn’t joking but did misread your previous post which led to the confusion you’re referring to. But the president is indeed a transparent fraud. My God, there are so many quotes from Obama where he’s stating his opposition to the war and then there are so many votes by him showing that he does indeed support the war - and the extension of the Iraq War. Here’s just a few:

he voted against another successful bill which gave $120 billion in funding for the Iraq War (vote 181), but voted for two different votes on a separate failed bill (HR 1591), which appropriated similar amounts for the Iraq War but included timetables for American troop withdrawals [source: The Washington Post].

He voted in favor of HR 4939 in 2006, which granted $67 billion in emergency funding to the Department of Defense

Obama voted against the Military Commissions Act of 2006, (S. 3930) which granted legal immunity for CIA officials involved in acts of torture, outlawed certain acts of torture by U.S. agents, and barred detainees labeled enemy combatants from protesting their incarceration.

None of the things you posted show he’s a transparent fraud or show ideological support for the Iraq war though. He was a senator, and had to cast a vote one way or the other. Bills are messy and complicated, and often contain items where in order to vote yay on something you want (like troop withdraw timetables), you end up simultaneously voting on something you may not necessarily support. It’s called compromise. Compromising on something does not mean you support the opposing agenda.

Think about it like this:

A bill containing two items. 1) $100 billion to fund the war; 2) a troop withdraw timetable.

Any way you vote on that bill can be used as evidence that you support the war (funding it). Any way you vote on that bill can also be used to show you do not support the war (withdrawing troops).

That is what you’re doing here.

In an ideal world, Ms. Rice would not be unwilling to make such a speech; rather, she’d be unable to make such a speech, due to being forced, along with Donald Rumsfeld, Dick Cheney, Paul Wolfowitz and George W. Bush, to spend the rest of her life behind bars as a war criminal.

One can dream of such a world…

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Another grifting Republican, in addition to her war crimes. She was getting $35K to receive a honorary doctorate?!? I was pretty disgusted when the University of Minnesota paid her $250K to come spew her lies. This takes the cake.

On edit: her fee at U of MN was only $150. My mistake. But still an outrageous sum. It would pay a professor’s salary for a year.

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Dancin’ David Gregory said it was surprising that a progressive organization didn’t want to hear opposing views. No, Dave, the students and faculty did not want money and honors to go to someone who was instrumental in the lies that killed tens of thousands of people. Again, not a First Amendment issue - you can say what you want, the government won’t stop you, but may be held accountable by others.

Plus, she said nobody told her, the National Security Adviser, what to do.

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Finally her lies about mushroom clouds and smoking guns from Iraq have caught up with her. This shameless, close-minded woman doesn’t deserve to be honored for anything.

And given the mess the administration she worked for left this country and the world in after eight years of incompetent, misguided, mean-spirited governance, she’s a piss poor choice to speak to anybody, especially the young graduates of Rutgers.

We already know what this ideologue thinks and how she views the world - it’s very dark and very ugly. Don’t need to hear another word from her. Ever.

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