Discussion: College-Educated White People Put Hole In Trump Coalition

How can this be? Trump loves the educateds! The educateds love Trump!

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Speaking of college:

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You Do Not Represent Us: An Open Letter to Donald Trump

Dear Mr. Trump:

At the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania, students are taught to represent the highest levels of respect and integrity. We are taught to embrace humility and diversity. We can understand why, in seeking America’s highest office, you have used your degree from Wharton to promote and lend legitimacy to your candidacy."

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Once again the"uneducated" voting against their own self interests. How many of the working class were treated fairly,equitable and compassionately in any of the Trump bankruptcies? Certainly Trump made sure he experienced no loss for himself!

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I keep reading articles where Trump is losing all these demographic groups won by Romney. Or at least he is not doing as well with them. But then I look at the overall poll numbers and I see that Trump is certainly behind–5 or 6 points nationally–but not that far behind. So I would like to know with which groups he is clearly doing better than Romney. Is it just uneducated whites? What are the numbers?

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I think a lot of people being polled want to see Trump be the GOP candidate but have no intentions of actually voting for him in Nov.

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Just goes to show the uneducated “murray povich” tv show watchers will vote against their own self interests for the “murray povich” tv show presidential candidate.

Edit: could this be why gop/bags hate public education? And constantly cut education budgets to the bone??

Self fulfilling prophecy…

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I’ve been voting since 1976, the year I graduated from high school. In those 40 years, I voted for Reagan twice and G.H.W. Bush once.

But, after I saw what they did to Clinton and the absolute avaricious pandering of the Republican party towards the rich, I doubted I would ever vote Republican again.

Shrub sealed it for me. He was, and still is, an uninterested, unknowing puppet for the 1%, and Dick Cheney, while I am relatively sure he doesn’t really eat kittens, just skeeves me out; he seems…inhuman and sociopathic - totally lacking in empathy for other humans.

Trump? Well, I live in New York. The man’s an asshole of legendary proportions up here. I have to drive by several of his named properties up here every day, and I cringe when I do. He’s just an overblown, unintelligent, whiny blowhard who is only in it for himself. Donald Trump has never done anything for anyone that doesn’t benefit Donald Trump.

I’ve got a Masters degree and been teaching for 30 years, but I still remember what my father told me 40 years ago, “Never trust anyone who believes their own bullshit.” That’s Donald, and unfortunately, most of the Republican party these days.

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" which groups he is clearly doing better " MSM and their need to keep this tsunami hidden that is coming for the GOP IMO.

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Unthinking + anger + blaming + vicarious mechanism for expression = Trump candidacy

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Absolutely. As Josh said once, Rump is a Chauncey Gardner of the id, of rage, who acts as a kind of reflecting pool for some White voters. It genuinely doesn’t matter that he has NO POLICIES WHATSOEVER. They know it but they don’t care because he mimics them so completely they feel like one of their own is speaking for them.

I don’t think they care if he can or cannot be elected. That’s not the point. For the first time in a long time, a politician/celebrity is finally speaking for them.

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Wanda Melton has voted for every Republican presidential nominee since Ronald Reagan in 1980

I guess some people can’t see greed and incompetence even after it rips their face off.

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I was and am still amazed that GW Bush was elected twice, or to be accurate, selected once and elected once. The system in place is too powerful for someone like Trump to win a national election and I’m pretty sure his voters in the primaries, at least some of them were lodging a protest vote when they pulled the lever for him. I think a lot of those people won’t turn out on November 8th. For Democrats that would be November 9th.
So I don’t see turnout being an issue. Hillary will win. The only question is by how much. This really is a terrible year and there is no single candidate who could help the country get out of the mess it’s in. That would take a unifies country and the forces that run the world aren’t going to let that happen. Status quo is the word(s) of the day.

One more thing…College Educated doesn’t necessarily mean smart and thinking that your opponents are stupid is a big mistake. Having said that I’ll also add that Trump would have benefited from a short National Election Season. He doesn’t wear well.

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I think non-college edumacated whites is a demographic where Trump improves over Romney. This article should have provided the answer to your question. Why, for instance, do polls in Pennsylvania show Trump so close?

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Guy walks into an HR office.

No, I’ve never done this job, but I’ve worked for a long time. I have a lot of experience. I don’t need to know how to do the job. I have a wonderful brain. I’m smarter than everybody in your company. People will love me. Who’s your competitor? Oh yeah, I buy their products sometimes. I know all about them. I can beat them so easily. I don’t understand why you try so hard. Is your company run by an immigrant? Well, regardless, I won’t buy any of their stuff anymore. Never. I mean it. I’m very honest.

Guy walks out of an HR office, thinking, “Nailed it.”

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Your father has it right. Great line.

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Romney only lost by 4 points. And the polling averages you are looking at are usually including the Ras poll that shows Trump up by 2-4 points (they ONLY one showing him with a lead, btw…even Fox is giving her roughly 6 points). Also note that Johnson is polling considerably better than he performed in 2012 (8-10points vs 1 point).

For example, in this Pew poll, Clinton leads white college educated 50-42…Romney won that 56-42. So where is the missing 6 percent?

Also, remember 5 or 6 points behind before the convention is a sizable hole. After the convention her lead should start expanding.

But its far from over. Hillary is still going to face a difficult time in cutting through the media and getting her message out. Witness the speech she gave yesterday concerning Dallas…a tremendous speech(one of her best) that received zero coverage. Trump put out a press release that was, by normal qualifications, pretty generic. But since he didn’t say anything outlandish, its received coverage everywhere.

And in the short run, that’s not going to change much. Next week Trump will probably announce his VP selection and Bernie will finally endorse Hillary. Guess which one is going to receive the lions share of media attention?

That sort of thing is going to cause some real problems for us.

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Spoke with my GOPer brother-in-law, whom I respect, and he indicated he sees trump as the worst possible candidate he can imagine. Not for the reasons i do but nevertheless there it is.

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P.S. I forgot to add “overly-impressed with and envious of wealth” into my equation.

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You don’t seem to understand something integral to what’s happening with these people: they don’t want the country to be unified. They want THEIR WAY. They want THEIR country back. They don’t have any more ability to want unification as the antebellum southeners did. It has nothing to do with “the forces that run the world.”

While college educated doesn’t necessarily mean smart what it sometimes manifests is the ability to have an expanded worldview. An ability to see that there are ways to see what’s happening in their lives beyond their own prejudices.

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