This is my biggest frustration with Obama. He refuses to personally interject himself into a story to change the narrative. Why not publicly mention that defense contracts are going to be reviewed if they move jobs out of the US? Why not kick some dirt and throw your weight around? His refusal to play the game is infuriating.
Personally I think a lot of Trumps victory can be traced back to the lack of punishment for the 2008 crash. Everything just kind of…went back to normal. The american people got screwed over, lost their homes, lost their jobs, and no one paid for it. No one was held accountable. Obama should have arrested every CxO and board member and trader on wall street, perp walked them with hoods on their heads to jail, siezed their assets, and given a press conference where every FBI and DOJ agent was instructed to drop everything and focus on bringing Wall Street to heel. Boots on necks.
There was no culpability for the 2008 crash. Sure the auto industry was saved, a lot of good things happened but there wasn’t any blood. And the American people want fairness, they want people who have done wrong to be held accountable. Obamas refusal to have a public display that sated the American peoples pain is something that handicapped him for the rest of his presidency. It left a lot of rage and pain in the air, waiting for someone who could tap into it and harness it.
Let’s see how much angrier they’ll get by the time Trumpster is done with 'em, because they ain’t seen nothing yet.
Morons.
Umm, I think you mean “morans”. And agreed.
I believe the technical term is “shakedown”.
Historically, it’s been a successful business model for many New York families…
Great! I guess when Apple and the company that makes Oreos become defense contractors, we can expect their manufacturing to return to the U.S., as well.
Zenith used to make TVs here. Perhaps they could do so again if they also agreed to make cruise missiles.
Sounds like Pay to Play to me.
Those people rejoicing over this deal are so delusional they’re both.
@cfkdaddy You’re dealing with two fundamentally different personalities, and yes this is a simplification because one of the players needs his head examined and the other one is sane and dedicated, and who did the hard work and believed the results would speak for themselves. orange does no hard work and boasts in 140 characters that he did.
You tell me what Rust Belt Joe is going to think when he sees The Donald kicking ass and keeping jobs in America. Pay to play? I doubt he cares. Having a president go to the mattresses to keep jobs in the US? Thats loyalty thats earned. DT could loot the treasury and no one in those states will care. The optics here are whats important, and the narrative. If Trump can do this a few times a year, who do you think the Rust Belt will vote for? I seriously doubt that its the political party that is talking about White Privilege and gender bathrooms. These states have been left to rot for years. In their eyes there is finally there is a politician willing to do something about it. Dems ignore this at their peril.
Goodness. Such passionate views. So, just wondering, who’d you vote for? Stein? Gus Hall? Nobody? Surely not that awful Clinton person. No, you’d never compromise your principles, anything but that.
Totally agree. There was a craving for a populist response, and Obama just didn’t have that in him. I sometimes wondered if Clinton would have made a populist pivot and metaphorically rolled some heads. Her milquetoast 2016 campaign leads me to doubt that, though.
Pence could have offered these incentives (taxpayer giveaways) to Carrier while governor, now as vice president-elect he and Drumpf have a cudgel in the form of federal contracts to blackmail contractors providing good & services to the government.
Brooklyn too. You got dat? And yea, I’m talkin’ to you.
There was a craving for a “get the brown people, whites rule” response. That, more than populism, won the day, and Clinton was never going to go there. People actually voted against their own self-interest, because that effing charlatan, himself a racist, told them what they wanted to hear in that regard.
Dems ignore this at their peril.
Too late for that but Rust Belt Joe you speak of is not all that dumb. He I’m sure wants to see the details. What are the Carrier employees going to have to give up? And for how long will they be protected? This is far from a Trump win untill the details come out. And Dems better get their hands on them fast and turn this to their advantage if these details are all pro Carrier and wage rollbacks for Joe and fellow working stiffs.
Exactly, “You have a nice jet engine division, it would be a shame if something should happen to the contract to buy the planes they are attached to.”
If it’s true that UT felt pressure to keep jobs in the US to keep it’s seat at the Federal trough good for Trump and shame on every previous admin, including Obama’s, for not doing this.
It is outrageous that companies that profit from Federal contracts move jobs out at the same time. Who do they think funds those contracts?
Pres. Obama saved the auto industry. Even had them pay back the loan with interest and some of y’all are carping on what Obama didn’t do and portraying the warm temperature Yam as some hero?
/smh
He refuses to personally interject himself into a story to change the narrative. Why not publicly mention that defense contracts are going to be reviewed if they move jobs out of the US?
And that same opportunity was there in Sandy Hook in 2012. Weapons manufacturers do about half their business (revenues) through contracts with federal and state agencies, as well as our military. And Obama, bu using the purchasing power of the federal government through its purchasing agreements and purchasing power (much like Walmart), could have demanded radical technological changes in gun safety. But all we got were tears.
Heh. Yep. It’s a business model that is very familiar in the Mezzogiorno of Italy, too.