I have lived in the South for more than half of my life. I’ve seen lots of cars/trucks with Confederate flags. For some reason, I’ve never seen one of those vehicles driven by a black person.
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And this is what private elite boarding school gets you? Dumbfuckery at a very expensive price apparently.
Even though he received poor grades at first, he made the honor roll by the end of his senior year and served as captain of the tennis team.
Amazing what a little money can do to help a child along when you’re able to grease someone’s palms if all else fails, and things don’t go exactly your way. I’m looking at you Babs.
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It’s my understanding the flag was relatively obscure, one of multiple campaign flags, until the Civil Rights movement got rolling. Then, suddenly, in a huge meaningless coincidence, the entirely innocent and laudable concept of southern heritage—Faulkner, pecan pie, all that—needed a symbol. I’m not a South-basher and never have been. But this particular line of argument, how the war was fought over states’ rights and the flag is a symbol of heritage—it’s an insult to anyone’s intelligence, no matter where they come from.
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I think I’ll take some crap for this, but I actually agree with Bush. If the only representation of the Confederate flag was that it was the symbol of the secessionists, then it probably wouldn’t bother me as much. But I think that because I associate it more with the anti-civil rights forces of the the 50’s and 60’s, it becomes a more personal symbol. The cries of “heritage not hate” ring hollow when you know that the flag is proudly flying at a Klan rally.
I can’t get mad with Bush on this one. And maybe this is how low the bar is for the GOP, that this is really a kinda thoughtful remark.
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“The problem with the Confederate flag isn’t the Confederacy, the
problem with the Confederate flag is what it began to represent later,”
No, I’m sorry Mr. Bush. What you have done is pointed out what the problem is with the South and with people like you. Because, you see, the problem with the Confederate flag is BOTH the Confederacy AND what the flag came to represent later.
In terms of the Confederacy, the flag represented the defense of chattel slavery, an unimaginably evil institution. What it became later was a symbol of White Southern repression and victimization of black people, something still occurring not only in the South but elsewhere in this country.
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So, according to JEB, “It was okay to fly during a treasonous insurrection, but not once they lost.”
Clears it up for me.
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According to the Huffington Post, the flag at the Florida capitol was erected in 1978.
I know they’re slow, but it took Floridians 113 years to discover a part of their “heritage?”
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Trump: Jeb! is wrong as usual. Confederate flag always represented Southern Heritage of Slavery. Nothing else. It was popular, productive and the best of USofA. There was absolutely no reason to take these flags down. Wrong side won the civil war.
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Nnnoooo…pretty sure the problem was what it originally stood for.
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Neil equals Silverado
Which in turn led to that Bush 1 quote
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The “heritage” they’re referring to has nothing to do with that flag, which was the battle flag of the Army of Tennessee.
The square version was the battle flag of the Army of Northern Virginia.
Neither of them is the Confederate flag—the Stars and Bars—and no one in Florida or most of the South ever fought under those battle flags.
It was always a racist emblem, from day one, and will always be exactly that.
As usual, Bush is playing fast and loose with the facts, because he doesn’t care about facts.
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Well, Neil was the one behind the saving and loan collapse. I wonder how much he got away stealing?
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Actually, the states rights argument came later. If you read the secession documents, they are all about white supremacy.
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This is so fucking wrongheaded it would be baffling if it came from anyone other than a republican and a Bush. Once again the Confederacy was clearly and simply founded on the idea that “states” had the “right” to keep blacks as slaves. That happened then, not after the war.
We don’t need to honor or respect the Confederacy. We need to acknowledge and remember it to never forget what we are capable of as a nation. We should not remove the Confederacy from our minds or nation. We need to remember that, as a nation, we were capable of killing over 500,000 citizens during an armed uprising and rebellion. Embrace that idea and learn from it. Don’t ignore it or mischaracterize it. THAT dishonors the memory.
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“Neil is a good boy”
Jeb!: Guys, I took the flag down but I gave you its replacement: Stand Your Ground. If African Americans have no guns and we have all the guns, its as good as it gets.
it’s not the romanticized version of the south that good old boys want to PRETEND they believe in.
FIFY
HA!
I still wonder how much he got away with while daddy was pres and he was cleaning out the saving and loans banks.
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Here’s another bone for ya
McCain was part of the Senate group that were lucky to receive some form of censure.
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That’s just because Clarence Thomas lives in DC. He used to have a confederate flag in his office.
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