Discussion: Breaking: Obama Admin Offers Hobby Lobby Workaround On Birth Control

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I’ll bet the proposal will violate their “sincerely held religious belief” to say No to anything proposed by Obama.

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Wait, but I thought the whole point of the Hobby Lobby lawsuit was to keep slutty employees from using birth control in the first place? Shame on you, Obama administration.

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We want control of the vagina in our work place. If they are going to be used we will determine the time, place, participants and purpose by God

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What difference does it make who they tell? The bottom line is they have do something before the birth control/contraceptive is given. They are gonna challenge this, too, and win this challenge as well.

I don’t see what’s so hard. The birth control lowers the cost. Why not just make all the insurance providers provide birth control directly to the insured without any action from any employer, public, private or religious.

“Hello, Health insurance company. My name is Suzy Q, I work for Ford Motor company and I need birth control pills. My policy number is 123ABC.”

I must be missing something, or we are not being told something, the cost of the birth control must not be fully offset by the reduction in maternity costs, or something like that. Otherwise, there is not reason the drag this out like this.

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I read that as “reacharound”, heh.

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The Family Research Council, a socially conservative group, dismissed the proposed rule as “an insulting accounting gimmick does not protect the rights of Americans with sincere conscientious objections.”

Hm. An insulting accounting gimmick. Reminds me of religious tax-exempt status. GFY

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They’re gonna pull the same shit religious organizations are doing: claim that filling out a fucking form somehow violates their religious right.

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Gotta love this President (and I do). Speak clearly and poke them with a big stick.

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This is good that women will still have access. However, it doesn’t solve the problem with the Hobby Lobby decision which is: SCOTUS has given employers to right to impinge on their employees lives based on a personal belief they allege to hold. No company has to substantiate any claim to “religious belief.” They can just throw that term out there and the employee has no recourse. Already companies are lining up to challenge in court laws protecting workers from sex discrimination, anti-gay bias, etc. and a whole host of other issues… all in the name of “religious freedom.”

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That the hobby lobbyers of the world want to hold the birth control issue as proof that you are evil and the reason for all the problems of the world is itself evil when considering that overpopulation is probably the single most damaging problem we face. It seems that the controlling behavior exhibited by the pro lifers is one of the most damaging social positions that can be taken because historically it has not played out to attempt to achieve nothing more than assassinating the character of another by holding a questionable judgment. It is blasphemous.

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My kingdom for a male birth control pill. All this bullshit goes away the day such a pill becomes available. That is unless these sanctimonious assholes want to come right out and explicitly acknowledge that their true aim is to control women’s sexuality.

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Vag check on aisle 3…

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From the post, ‘The Family Research Council, a socially conservative group, dismissed the proposed rule as "an insulting accounting gimmick does not protect the rights of Americans with sincere conscientious objections.’ Which goes to prove what the jesus godders want to hide, that they want to impose their beliefs on everyone. The clowns who believe in non-existent supernatural beings will do anything to gain power, including the lying and hating so prevalent in their tactics.

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Well, I find Wheaton College complicit in ALL abortions since they are not actively preventing them.
Ha! You’re all going to hell, sinners!

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The cost of birth control is a mere fraction of the cost of just the pregnancy, never mind the birth, post natal care, and covering the child. The only reason the right is pursuing this is simple…a black Democratic president presidenting.

It is fantastically stupid for a company like Hobby Lobby to exclude birth control from their coverage. The only thing that outweighs their greed is their racism and unbridled hate for our president.

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This is beginning to feel like one of those games that Sheldon concocts on the Big Bang Theory.

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Sam’s right in that it doesn’t solve the fundamental constitutional and personal privacy problems that the ‘corporations are people’ outlook creates.

As to Wheaton College - do they get federally protected student loans or grants? Any grant money going into their pockets? Seems like their accounting needs a close review if they are claiming independence based on religious exemptions.

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“reach-around” not “work-around”.

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Please don’t call them “pro-life” or “pro-lifers”. They’re neither and they don’t give a damn about human life. They’re simply anti-abortion because they desperately want to control women almost as badly as they want to undermine the president for the sake of undermining him. They’re truly horrific human beings.

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