Discussion: 'Big Fat Liar': WaPo Reports On White House Staff's Frustration With Kelly

In fairness, it is a problem in scaling. Being able to lie, and do the best lies, is difficult when an organization as the WH when it is scaling at least 10X from anything that has been done in the past. As a practical matter it just has not been conceived before at this level and they are still developing best practices for lying.

Of course, the problem is when the lies come into conflict, or the unfortunate turn of events that to reveals a lie or two. These lies then must be adjusted, which then may draw further lie-lie conflicts creating a ripple effect, where the adjusted lies create conflicts to be adjusted and so on.

Of course, I am sure this all might be worked out with AI; however, the obvious solution is simple transparency. But, for some reason this either has not occurred to this WH, because may be simple truth is not in their DNA, or because non-lying might draw serious conflicts for the WH, or what I suspect, both.

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Well, Sarah can be happy about one thing. With all the stress that this Porter fiasco is causing her, she will probably drop down in clothing size from a blue whale to a narwhal.
Mr. Pinkingshears, head custom designer and tailor at Little Rock Tent and Awning, will be quite pleased!

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Trump often muses about personnel changes he ultimately does not make.

tRUmp is too much of a coward to make personnel changes, in the irony of ironies he delegates the firing to others, notice no firings since his body guard left?

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I’ll always remember where I was when I heard that the president wore a tan suit

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This particular “unnamed White House official” is particularly well spoken and still has at least a toe touching reality.

This makes me wonder if everyone in the WH who read these comments knows exactly who made them.

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Trump isn’t angry or upset with Kelly’s handing of the Rob Porter disaster. Donnie is just pissed off that Johnny wouldn’t steam his fucking pants.

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If they weigh him after all the Big Macs, fries and sodas, he’s definitely obese.

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Assumes facts not in evidence: now that Porter’s gone, I’m not sure there’s anyone left in the WH who reads.

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For all the accolades he got before this fiasco,
I wonder if he has a new definition of “friends”
Pack your bags and run far far away asap.
It will be less embarrassing in the long run.
General who ???

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We are now at the 8th day of the Rob Porter fiasco and Michael Cohen just revived the Stormy Daniels payoff for silence wrt Trump. Stormy now says since Cohen has admitted the payment she is free to talk. Hoo boy.

Oh, and Mueller ain’t going away.

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I doubt anyone in the WH read any of the comments. And if they did, I doubt they have the cognition to deduce who made what comments merely by the quality of the English spoken; IMO.

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People working in rigid hierarchies are often promoted just above the limits of their abilities to excel. He enlisted more or less at just the right time, with the Corps on a war footing but active deployment beginning to slow—there’s no record of him going to Vietnam with the USMC during the 2 years he was in. 3 years off to pursue college, then he came back in to attend OCS and get commissioned.

By the time he’s seeing any actual action, he’s already a Lt. Col. He’s not a forward commander. Prior to rolling over the Iraqi Army in the most one-sided advance through the region since Tamerlane, his big ‘action’ moment was… providing logistical support to the LAPD, LBPD, and California National Guard during the LA riots (because the military can’t conduct actual law-enforcement duties themselves within the US). He’s spent most of his career in administrative roles, either at HQ, heading up a department at Basic School in Quantico, an aide to Supreme Allied Command, Europe, or as a legislative Liaison.

Compare his record to that of Jim Mattis, and you get two extremely different images of ‘Marine General’. Kelly’s the guy who talks tough. Mattis is the guy who, as Kelly’s direct boss had 1st Marines undergo sensitivity training prior to deploying to Iraq. While Kelly was the assistant chief of staff for 2nd Marines, Mattis—at the time a Brigadier General—was literally out in the shit with his men, spending his time in the fighting holes with his officers to keep up to date on the situation.

I ain’t gonna say Mattis has been perfect in the last year-and-change, but holy shit, is it easy to see why Trump picked one, not the other, for the White House. Can you imagine Kelly telling his guys to grow mustaches so they’d look more like the locals to try to put civilians at ease?

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Shulkin was supposed to be the one decent cabinet member. He was confirmed 100-0. Just more evidence that working for Trump is bad for your career.

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Well, that’s the thing about chronic liars, I suppose. They think everyone believes their lies when in fact no one does.

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For your daily dose of schadenfreude, check out the article on The Hill titled Frustrated Republicans urge White House to turn the page. Choice quote from one GOP strategist:

“The White House’s inability to turn the corner is turning a big problem into a major crisis,” he said.

In fact, I think we can safely say that a '72 El Dorado with loose tie rods doing 90 MPH handles corners better than the gang of corrupt incomps who currently occupy the White House.

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If Ma Hamhock says something didn’t happen, you know for damn sure it did with at least 200 or 300 honest witnesses observing said event.

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The White House was already operating at full ability to absorb lies. Kelly being outed as a liar and then creating a whole new web of lies to cover up his lying is the final straw.

Its not 3 or 11 dimensional chess, its multi-dimensional lying. The staff just doesn’t know which level to dive in at.

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Jesus Told Him So, last time they met at a DC Denny’s…

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Good thing he is retired from the Marines. He could be in deep s#!t if he wasn’t with covering up and just permitting an unauthorized person to view/hear top secret information. He would be burned. If you can’t pass, you can’t see/hear. Kelly knew/knows that and let it happen. In my opinion he is as big a risk as Porter.

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