Discussion: Biden Refuses To Apologize After Sharing Anecdote Aides Told Him To Change

Cory Booker and the other Democrats need to stick to pounding on Trump for all his outrageous statements and lack of apologies.

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True. Their desperation is obvious.

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This.

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That occurred to me but I think itā€™s more a thing where certain big shots and people who fancy themselves big shots become used to the idea that theyā€™re right about most things. Biden is very much unlike Trump in every way that could possibly matter.

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Here is what Booker actually said. Nothing Booker should apologize for.

"You donā€™t joke about calling black men ā€˜boys,ā€™ā€ Corey Booker said. ā€œMen like James O. Eastland used words like that, and the racist policies that accompanied them, to perpetuate white supremacy and strip black Americans of our very humanity.ā€

Joe Hands should apologize and drop out.

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If Biden starts apologizing, thatā€™s all heā€™ll be doing for as long as he running. He really knows how to step in it, lots of experience.

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I donā€™t think Bookerā€™s viewpoint is about ā€œeating their ownā€. I watched Booker last night on CNN. His sincerity and clarity about why the statement ā€œHe didnā€™t call me boy, he called me sonā€ is so hurtful was poignant, and for Biden to not acknowledge that and to call for Booker to apologize is a failure on Bidenā€™s part.

I like Biden, but I like him best in a supporting role. I know heā€™s not a racist, but I do think that heā€™s out of touch on this issue.

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Here we have no need for presidents who are befuddled white men with foggy notions of how to behave towards othersā€¦ Weā€™ll hold our noses and vote for him if he claims the nomination - but more and more hoping we wonā€™t have to.

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True, but I think thereā€™s a comfortably wide space between that and just noting that a particular candidate has certain weaknesses. Weā€™re hiring for a job here.

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His legislative record and the extreme harm that his crime bills have caused to the African-American community would suggest otherwise.

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Biden is presumably calculating that picking a fight with the Democratic base will endear him to centrist Dems and Republicans. This may or may not work for him. But itā€™s not only his candidacy thatā€™s at stake: the unity of the Democratic party as we head into a crucial election is also stake. In this sense, Biden is a menace. The last thing we need, in an election that will hinge on partisan turnout, is a divisive Democratic candidate.

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And thereā€™s Uncle Joe, heā€™s a movinā€™ kinda slow at the election.

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While I agree with you in spirit, thereā€™s a limit, right? Weā€™re watching an experiment in real time to try and see if thereā€™s something awful the frontrunner can say that wonā€™t drastically change the race. We know the GOP is happy to overlook the awful. Are we any better than the GOP?

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ā€œThe Dowager Empress of South Carolinaā€ā€¦ LOL Priceless! Took me three minutes to scrape my howling self up from the floor before I could reply.

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And why should he apologize? His point is that for government to work, individuals have to work across lines, even ā€˜red linesā€™. Not tolerate them, not venerate them, not applaud them, just work with them. Everything our obstructionist, non-functional, government is NOT today.

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Iā€™ve strongly opposed Biden for 2020 as way too conservative on the issues and a (twice!) proven God awful presidential candidate. This incident well illustrates both problems. But in addition, it shows that Biden is not only oblivious and ignorant of the modern world in general but the Democratic base in particular. Worse, he just doesnā€™t care and appears to be personally odious and shameless as wellā€“odious and shameless enough be a Republican. (I also think Biden is ridiculously old to run. Iā€™m 65, so no ageist. Though, TBH, that may be driven by biasā€“I strongly back Warren and, though a bit younger, her age is problematic as well.)

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Bear with me here but I think the kind of thing that squares that circle is AND THIS IS AN EXAMPLE Betoā€™s comment about how he supports the ball players who took a knee but understands people who find that objectionable. It went viral because, I think, it left people at least feeling heard, or maybe we imagine and hope that it might. At any rate it seemed like an approach people liked. Itā€™s a form of outreach, of striving for a less divided polity, that at least seeks for commonalities weā€™d all endorse to some extent. Biden saying ā€œYou know Iā€™m not a divider because I could work and make nice with segregationistsā€ doesnā€™t quite accomplish that. Itā€™s just not as deft, or as easy to justify.

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I missed the memo when Biden became just as hated as Bernie on the boards.

But I guess it must be out there, because when even our ā€œnormalā€ folks are running along with the trolls in lock-goose-step hereā€¦

Roosevelt met with Stalin during WWII.

Can you see Trump meeting up with a nemesis to negotiate taking out a third enemy?

Thatā€™s Bidenā€™s point here.

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That goes too far. Our civic duty is to choose the best candidate possible. Many of us thought from the beginning that Biden wasnā€™t that.

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And itā€™s one thing to think that, I happen to agree. But seeing bernie-level hating going on? WTF is going on here, or did everyoneā€™s account get hacked and itā€™s just straight russkie trolls speaking in everyoneā€™s name.

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