Discussion: Bibi's Fearmongering Was Red Meat For Iran Hawks—But A Dealbreaker For Democrats

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This is the 26th consecutive year that Iran has been one year away from developing a nuclear weapon.

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Bibi Netanyahu is once more requesting that the United States sacrifice its soldiers on behalf of Israel because the lives of Israeli soldiers are far too precious to lose. Notice how Boehner and Orin Hatch, applauding and smiling, wholeheartedly agree and think that this is just a terrific idea.

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Bill O’Reilly sez he knows Iran is exactly how Bibi describes it because he nailed himself to a cross there and saw it all. just after he saved his cameraman’s life

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So for at least the last 20 years Netanyahu has never been right about Iran and he was wrong about Iraq too.

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Even if he was partly right it seems that this is just rhetoric to help make a deal fall through. The GOP has been against the Iran talks from the start and some Dems. For only partly valid reasons, all this does is give them a reason to base this in.

Any deal in the form of a treaty is dead before it gets done. Seems like a deal is the best way to go about this whole thing. Even if it is not perfect.

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And the irony is that a wiser, less bellicose and less partisan Israeli leader might realize that bringing Iran in from the cold with a solid agreement (which, from what I’ve been able to gather, this one will be if it happens) could present new opportunities for Israel without threatening its relationship with the US. But when your entire career is built on fear-mongering and short-term political opportunism, you’re definitely not that Israeli leader; you’re actually the threat.

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Can anyone tell me what we get out of our relationship with Israel? I would love to know. Back in the day they were used as a pawn in the cold war. But what do we get out of it now?
These cocksuckers have even said that they’re staying neutral with our beefs with Russia. Fuck them. So tired of Israel. And fuck this one-sided relationship.

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You won’t see their kids fighting.

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If the US and the Muslim world reach some sort of peace the Israeli settlers might lose their opportunity to create a greater Israel.

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Israel needs to replace Netanyahu in their next election.

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No question; and hallelujah. That’s certainly part of the right’s calculus there; but since the settlers have long been the greatest blight on Israel’s politics, and collective soul, the sooner their pernicious movement is destroyed, the better. That’s where a better leader’s wisdom would come in.

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Thanx, Bibi Fuckinyahoo.

It’s always 2002 for these scumbags.

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Dumbass Bush named Iran as a part of the axis of evil and so the, never say sorry/never admit fault Republicans, have got to stay the course, just like dummy Bush. Neo-Cons, this is basically also Netanyahu, want to fight the Iraq war all over again and Syria and everywhere ISIL is, plus the rest of the axis North Korea, because they like war profiteering and playing tough with other people’s lives. Peace is a concept that they don’t come near understanding.

Israel has nuclear capability, gobs of it, so do we and we’ve used it, if we are being consistent, we should fear ourselves and Israel the most.
Let Iran have nuclear energy, BFD, we do inspections and would likely do stronger inspections if they got that technology going.
Iran helping keep Israel in line doesn’t sound all bad to me. Israel should be paying us by all rights because according to Netanyahu’s rhetoric, without us, they are doomed.

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Indeed. I personally know Israelis who, as Israelis born and bred, nonetheless spent part of their childhood in Iran because their father worked there. Never a problem for/with them.

Intelligence sharing with the best eyes and ears in the region. A democratic partner that aspires to many of the values we hold. Israel, as a nation has some deep flaws, but they have the right kind of society to correct those flaws.

Bibi said in Response: "But when you are wrong 26 times in a row, you are bound to be right to sooner or later. I am willing to sacrifice as many Americans as I can until I am proven right.

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They are mostly a theocracy. Not exactly a role model for the world.

Hopefully, tensions will die down over the speech.

But the hardliners in Israel and the GOP may well be playing a helpful role by providing President Obama, John Kerry and the other negotiators with a foil: If the Iranian leaders and negotiators can be convinced that the deal we are offering them is the best they can possibly and realistically expect, they might take it.

And if a deal that can lead to a easing of tensions is consummated, that can provide the basis of other negotiations – say, between Israel and Palestine.

And if the alliance currently arrayed against ISIS can form the basis for a longer-term regional security cooperation, and then an ongoing regional economic cooperation, good things can once again emerge from the Middle East.

I am actually cautiously hopeful.

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