Superdelegates are not, in reality, anything but tiebreakers.
Putting them in any column right now is not really fair as we saw in 2008.
If one candidate is far ahead they will likely fall in line behind that candidate.
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Yes, they can change their votes, as many did from Hillary to Barack last time. But I think most of them will be much more hesitant to change to Bernie â who is taking on the Democratic âestablishmentâ in a kind of in-your-face way that Barack really wasnât.
But the nightmare scenario is that Bernie comes into the convention with a solid majority of elected delegates, but not enough to win if the superdelegates stay with Hillary. Then the party is in a very awkward position, because either the superdelegates knuckle under and support the candidate with more elected delegates (even if they think that candidate is less electable) to preserve party unity, or else they side with the candidate who has fewer elected delegates, which means they get the candidate they think should be more âelectableâ in the fall, but in so doing they are basically thumbing their collective noses at the rank-and-file majority, therefore potentially undercutting the very electability they are basing their support on.
Which is why I hope the winning candidate is able to rack up enough elected delegates to clinch the nomination without the superdelegates being the ones to determine the winner. Because:
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That should be the scariest number of all for Hillary.
I have been beating on Hillary the last few weeks but I realize she would make a better President than Bernie. There is no doubt about it he has the better message. She has to realize that if she doesnât adopt that message she loses.
I no longer doubt Sanders can win the general. I am convinced Republicans donât understand that yet.
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I agree. I lean Sanders but I think HRC is on her way. I just hope the rumors about a âshakeupâ in her campaign were bull because the last thing she needs is a âHillary is panickingâ narrative to take hold and I feel like there are plenty of media outlets just chomping at the bit to push that one along.
Does anybody believe âsuperdelegatesâ would overturn the will of the voters? A majority based on superdelegates means absolutely nothing.
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According to ABC exit poll (just saw on their livestream) Bernie won something like 55% of female votes (all ages) to Hillaryâs 44%. Havenât seen the gap on young voters, or young female voters, but I think both are going to be pretty lopsided. The youth vote thing was pretty much expected, and thereâs been a fair amount of talk about Bernie making inroads among women, but I didnât expect him to actually beat Hillary among women in general, at least not by that much.
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I really, really hope we avoid hearing campaign surrogates talking about superdelegates.
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If they wouldnât, what would be the point of having superdelegates in the first place?
But if it did come to that, it would be a potentially disastrous scenario for Democratic turnout in the fall.
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She had already addressed that in a sit down with Maddow before that story came out. She is looking to add people and grow her campaign staff, not âshake it upâ. Nobodyâs head is on the block, and even the Politico article doesnât imply that point.
And while the list of wrong doings coming from the Sanders campaign grows longer, and they continue to blame it on isolated incidentsâŚnobodyâs head is on that block, either.
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Hillary â the favorite of old rich people. Lots of money in that, very few votes.
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I say this as a Sanders-leaner: This is my litmus test for the night: any talking head that speaks of doom and gloom for HRC is selling something that is probably not worth buying.
Iâm looking at you Andrea Mitchell.
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Co-sign.
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I thought Iâd take my chance to agree with you⌠
Many will believe any negative story about herâŚ
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Proof that Clinton is very good at playing the refs. In what reality is losing by more than 10% called âwinningâ?
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Hell, calling it early in Iowa and declaring a tie a major victory worked so�
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Dukakis â the pragmatic, technocratic, mainstream candidate with little charisma, but the strong backing of the Democratic establishment. Sounds eerily familiar.
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You know, of course that Hillary is white, and [gasp] sheâs married to a white man.
And you know 55% of the voters who elected Barrack Obama where white.
So why this snear at white people in just about every post? One might get the idea youâre a closet racist or something.
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she is well positioned no doubt.
If the strength holds then I suppose the competition is good excersiseâŚ
either way one of us is going to need to find a way to get excited about a candidate that currently we are not excited about.
cheers
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Agree. But she kinda tried that with the no no, Iâm more progressive than you argument in their last debate. And failed. The GS speaking fees? She canât answer for them. People see the fees she received as obscene amounts of money. And if it happened 20 years ago she could talk around it. But it was only 2-3 years ago.
Donât know where else she can go. She says foreign policy experience, Sanders says judgement!
Maybe she should go all in with the Establishment candidate message, getting things done, dealing in reality, not just ideas. My two cents.
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IA and NH are VERY, VERY RURAL AND WHITE. (oh yeah, VT, too)
The rest of the country is NOT.
This has been another edition of simple answers to simple questions.
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