Discussion: Arkansas Voters Complain About Quizzing By Poll Workers Checking IDs

It’s a play on words. The username is, obviously, a portmanteau of Ralph Vaughn Williams and Gustav Holst, two of my favorite composers [along with Jean Sibelius, Maurice Ravel, Claude Debussy, and Carl Nielsen].

The paternal side of Holst’s family was of mixed Swedish, Latvian and German ancestry and the surname was originally “von Holst.” It was anglicized during WWI. Von is sounded almost the same as Vaughan, et voila.

Were these poll WORKERS/MANAGERS or WATCHERS? Sounds like ARK needs some serious training on IDs.

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“I can tell you that poll workers, from our perspective anyway, poll workers were trained on the correct process,”

When did “correct” become a matter of perspective?

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Hey! I didn’t know that about Holst. Learn something new everyday. Great bunch of composers you listed there!

It will not be long before they are handing out literacy tests.

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I simply do not understand these laws at all. What does having an ID have to do with the right to vote? let’s assume you were actually worried about “voter fraud” or that people without the right to vote were voting. What does an ID prove? There are plenty of people with IDs that don’t have the right to vote (non-citizens, felons,etc.), and plenty of qualified voters that don’t have IDs, (people that don’t drive, for example).

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Probably only “that kind of people” who, in the pollworkers mind, would be most likely to commit fraud, if you get my drift.

Their purpose is to suppress the Democratic vote because car owners automatically have a valid ID but non-car owners (the poor, younger voters, etc.) have to go out of their way to get one.

Oh, you mean, why doesn’t their stated rationale make any sense? Good question…

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Time to slap around a few election officials.

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ummmmmmm, actually i believe that the GOTP would be in favor of illiteracy test. That’d be the best way to weed out all voters who have an IQ above 85.

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When yer a hammer, everything looks like a nail…

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By the way, if the GOP is so fond of voter ID laws, I’ve always wondered what would happen if Dems submitted this countergambit:

  • Require the same special voter ID for all voters. Sorry, you don’t magically get one just because you own a car. You have to go wait in line with everyone else.
  • Make it illegal to take vacation, or a long lunch, or all the other things privileged people can do at their jobs when they need to go to the DMV. If you can’t prove you’re unemployed, then you can go the one Thursday a month that they’re open until 7.
  • No transportational advantages, either. Free taxi service to the DMV for all voters getting an ID.

I mean, Republicans should welcome these, because it’s really just about ensuring the integrity of elections, right?

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Let me add to that too. The last time I voted here in Texas, once you approach the desk and give them your ID card and voter registration, then they ask you if you want a Republican or a Democrat ballot. That’s exactly what’s likely happening here, and it gives them an avenue to weed out the republicans and target the ones voting Dem. I so badly wanted to tell them, “None of your damn business which way I’m voting!”

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Was that in a primary or a general election?

Pretty sure, to the best of my recollection, it’s happened in both.

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You have it all wrong! The Arkansas Way spices things up, by adding elements of day time quiz shows, particularly performance flop sweats and dramatic uncertainty.

Yes, there may be “some” who’ll find this a hassle and maybe not bother in future (You’re free to guess which visible minority they’ll all members of; we can’t, because we’re not supposed to see color!). But from a participatory perspective this is almost ideal: culling the committed from the namby pambies.

Sure, there’ll be a concerted effort by leftwing loon agitators like the NAACP, ACLU, SPL, the DNC and Comedy Central to turn this into a “race” thing, but all them down in Arkansas know THAT’s the racist part - suspecting racism all the time based on data and patterns and science and other such “evidence”.

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Oooooooo, “portmanteau”, ooooooo - just try getting quickly thru an Arkansas voter registration line using THAT sort of language, bub.

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But just the answers. Y’all will have to guess the question, and frame it in a premise, like on that show with that eefeet Canadajun guy, Smart Alec Twee Beck. Like, answer - Democrat, question in premise: If’n I WAS to vote, no way in hell I’d wanna vote this way.

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That was my first thought because if they’re not doing it to everyone it’s a big problem. Those people who were challenged should’ve milled about and observed if other people were being treated differently.

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Duh. What self-respecting racist wouldn’t question a minority voter in hopes that their ID has a different address than their current address because they moved apartments? You know that’s what this was about…trying to catch people stating a different current address than the one on their ID (most likely a driver’s license, which are frequently issued for several years at a time), so they could say 'sorry, you cant vote" or force them to use a provisional ballot that could then be summarily denied by new draconian requirements for making it count. Well, that and delay…creating long lines by making people wait for unnecessary and unauthorized 'quizzing" takes place in hopes they just leave.

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