Discussion: AL Passes Most Restrictive Abortion Ban In Country, Threatens Providers With Life In Jail

Sleep well, Stein voters. Sleep the sleep of the righteous Susan Collins.

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They are already working on that in Ohio:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2019/05/10/sponsor-an-ohio-abortion-bill-thinks-you-can-reimplant-ectopic-pregnancies-you-cant/?utm_term=.f0256224b79b

The House bill, which was first introduced in April
by Ohio state Rep. John Becker (R), seeks to limit insurance coverage
for abortion procedures where the mother’s life is not endangered. It
would also bar coverage for drugs or devices that prevent the
implantation of a fertilized egg, which experts say could affect certain
kinds of IUDs. One provision especially worried doctors. The latest available version of HB 182 has an exception that would allow insurance to cover a treatment that does not exist. “A procedure for an ectopic pregnancy, that is intended to reimplant the fertilized ovum into the pregnant woman’s uterus."

And now they will have an excuse to investigate whether a miscarriage is just a miscarriage.

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Georgia already has a bill pending that would allow women who get an abortion to be prosecuted for murder including if they go out of state for it.

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The assholes who passed this horror knew it was unconstitutional when they passed it.

That’s their whole idea. They believe that now that Barf Kavanaugh is on the Supreme Court that this will be the case that goes to SCOTUS and gets Roe v. Wade overturned.
Roe was decided on a fairly thin legal basis, and the right-wingers who want to control and subjugate women have never tired of trying to get it overturned.

Roberts is unlikely to go along with overturning it because of the damage it would do to his “legacy” as CJ, but he’ll happily chip away at it, bit by bit, until it has no meaning to speak of.

A recent poll from FoxNews has 57% in favor of leaving Roe alone. Roberts is not unaware of this.

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Texas, too.

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My Way emergency contraceptive is $9.30 on Amazon. Every menstruating woman who isn’t regularly sexually active should have one on hand. This is sound practical advice which does not excuse in any way, the terrible judgements being cast by retrograde legislators.

From a legal perspective, you can’t overturn Roe if you don’t also overturn the legal underpinnings of Griswold v. Connecticut. And, though not, strictly speaking, decided under the “zone of privacy” theory, at that point Lawrence v. Texas and Obergefell v. Hodges are on the table.

That’s the slippery slope that the Talibangelicals are trying to get us on, and there are at least three votes for the full ride. And in the obstensibly boring case of Franchise Tax Board v. Hyatt, decided two days ago in the first substantive opinion ever written by Thomas, they laid the groundwork for ignoring stare decisis whenever they feel like it.

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I agree. It’s up to all of us sane folks to deny them their fondest desire.

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It’s often said that those who would criminalize or ban abortion want to keep women in their place. But I think it’s larger than that. They are individuals who believe that people have places–pre-ordained stations in society. It’s no accident that the strongest anti-abortion forces are (with a few exceptions) in states where African-Americans or Native Americans have been held down the most. And it explains why some women are leaders in the anti-abortion movement–because they want to stay in the place assigned to them, and in many cases, fear what happens if black, or Indian citizens, or immigrants, make progress.

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Close the hospitals down and let the Doctors go to Democratic States .

Deep breath people.

First, this was inevitable. GOP and Jesus-freaks have had their bows drawn for 30+ years waiting to do this.

That being said here is why I think the passing of these laws now are a good thing.

Warning…long term big picture talk here.

GOP has used Row v. Wade as a litmus test and straw man for decades. With the laws being passed…they lose a very strong motivational technique to get voters to the polls. GOP doesn’t have NRA and guns to fallback on either. The Karl Rove method of voter turnout comes ups short. Timing for this is perfect if the goal is remove DJT from office.

Meanwhile, the majority of America who is opposed to these laws will be highly motivated to not just get candidates in office to repeal votes but to actually show up at the polls and vote themselves. High voter turn out most always ends with Moderate-Democrat candidates and platforms being accepted and pushed through. People will actually begin to pay attention to Court elections and appointments.

Jesus-freaks don’t live and deal with real world consequences. As businesses pull billions of dollars from economies and church ladies have to drive to another state for routine OB-GYN exams, pressures will dwarf the minority and things will swing to less restrictions then when they initially started.

It’s going to be a bumpy road and as a father of young women, one I wish we didn’t have to go down…but I am confident that the change is going to come and the malignant minority will shouted and voted out.

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Might just as well criminalize pregnancies, no matter how it happened.

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No physician in Alabama is going to prescribe misoprostol to any woman for any purpose at all.

And the next step will be to criminalize the refusal to have sex … and all birth control methods … since it would be the interference with the creation of a potential life

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Just disgusting. I’m OK with the lack of an exception for rape and incest, because it makes their hatred for women absolutely clear. Not even the “good” women are exempt. (And that exemption was always a tell that the pro-dead-women faction didn’t really consider abortion to be murder, because nowhere else in the law is it OK to murder someone because of the bad actions of a third party.)

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What about the sperm inplanters? Without loose men spraying sperm all over this law would be unnecessary.

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There is no state in the nation where support for banning abortion rises to even 25%

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Creates an economy opportunity for drug smuggling. GOP is pro business.

Well, sure. Although my guess is that the primary smuggling operation will be the USPS.

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Don’t give them any ideas.