Discussion: After Guilty Plea, Sam Patten Feuded With Former Georgian Officials On Facebook

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I feel like I missed out. When I went to college, Slavic Grifting wasn’t one of the majors I could have chosen from.

Where do these clowns come from? Even more remarkable, if Trump had been defeated in the GOP primaries, and had gone back to being a tasteless fraudster in NY, all of these shenanigans would have stayed under the radar. Makes you wonder just how much of it is still going on elsewhere.

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ROTTEN to the CORE. LOCK them ALL up!

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And they’re such sophisticated grifters. Imagine thinking that following your indictment and/or guilty plea, you can still have a private conversation with your co-conspirators. On social media. Real geniuses.

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Saakashvili is the troll and grifter latched onto by the State Department in their never ending battle starting with the Clinton administration to bring NATO forces right up to the Russian border by any means necessary. Even reopening the Bloodlands, for blood. The purpose of which is so eventually all of Russia can be capitalized under the dollar system. It’s a long story that is difficult to make any sense of. For a taste he, a Georgian. was granted Ukrainian citizenship and made the Governor of the Odessa region of Ukraine by President Poroshenko. There are not votes for regional leaders in Ukraine because as Poroshenko has said Federalism is a diseased system. Later on Saakashvilli ran afoul of Ukraine’s so called government for reasons I don’t know, probably having to do with his opinion that Kiev was not killing a lot more self identified Russians in the break away rump republics of the East, and was exiled to Poland. It’s all very confounding as are all thing Ukraine. All TPM readers have to know is that Saakashvilli is an enemy of Russia and should be supported, or something like that I guess.

Patten has obviously gotten away with all sorts of illegal activities in the past because nobody was watching. He needs to put a poster of Mueller that says I AM WATCHING on his wall to remind him to keep his mouth shut. Either that or get a good lawyer and follow their advice.

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I thought the headline meant he was fighting with Nathan Deal. Or maybe Jimmy Carter.

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He’s just about as stupid as Manafort in that respect. Clueless grifters, the pair of them.

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Thinking about a scenario where Trump lost he would have happily spent his days pissing and moaning grifting and suing while the Republicans investigated Hillary all day every day
Maybe this was overdue
It seems that Mr. Mueller is the light that goes on in the storeroom and the cockroaches start scurrying.
The more rocks he turns over the more of an infestation he finds

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All these guys and all their illegal acts were exposed under the Mueller probe otherwise they’d still be operating in NYC (Trump tower) and Washington DC on “K” Street and they were all directly involved with the entire Russian mob operation in the US as well as in several former Soviet block states. Among other things, they were laundering money for Putin and his Oligarch billionaires to supercede US sanctions and international law enforcement actions to contain the Russian mob.

Without Mueller and for some reason their crimes were going undetected and unpunished. US Law enforcement like the FBI has been over committed to so called terrorist focus leaving us terribly exposed to our real #1 enemy: Putin and Russia. And yes, Trump was in the middle of that whole operation as a senior operative…and now as THE guys for Putin’s entire business operations in the US. Trump must be prosecuted in order for the US to clean out the Russian mob.

At a minimum, the US should impose a travel ban on Russia right now.

Putin and Russia are much more of a danger to the US than Iran. In fact Putin is financing a much larger terror thereat to the US than Iran…and yet Trump has the US focussing on Iran and obviously Putin has the Trump family over a barrel. This tragedy continues as McConnell and Ryan fail to protect the US…from Putin and his operative in the White House - Trump!

Sam Patten is just another on a very long list of Russian mob figures tied to Trump who himself is part of that organized crime operation! Giuliani is part of it as well…and so was Trump’s longterm attorney Cohen and long term business associate Manafort. Trump goes way back with all these members of the Russian mob because he is part of that mob! Trump has worked with Manafort for over 30 years!

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I asked this a couple days/weeks ago. What was this Patten dude doing here before he and Manafort when to Eastern Europe? Had they been supplanted by Tea Party activists? Was their bag of dirty tricks empty over here so they had to over there?

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It’s so hard to keep a secret nowadays.

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Oh man–who’d have thought that we’d be watching alleged grown men in positions of importance slap fighting on Facebook?

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I think the significance of this is that guys like Patten and Manafort were connected to a whole host of governments and intel agencies and undoubtedly had connections to Russia. I don’t think anyone operates in the world of Eastern European oligarchs without knowing that the real bosses are Putin, GRU and FSB. If there is a way for this story to be told at this upcoming Manafort trial it would go a long way to understanding how closely Trump is connected to and dependent on that circle.

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Do we even have a republic anymore? It is starting to feel like I should have a vote in Russia to pick who I want to have for my passport folder. Meanwhile, we have an unhinged dictator to be, travelling around what is left of America, peddling his bullshit.

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You know I get that we are in a bad spot as a Nation. And everyday seems to be a tad worse. I’m prone to depression so I can easily be persuaded to see the glass as a broken shard stabbing me in the hand. But I remember that the last Republican Chief Executive started two wars we are still involved with using the nation’s credit card. Oversaw global economic collapse the likes of which the world hadn’t seen since the 20’s. Began kidnapping, detaining and torturing people as a means to secure our false sense of freedom. Utilized the biggest domestic tragedy to suspend habeas corpus and begin massive domestic surveillance with US based companies assisting while working really hard to divide the country and create the party of the flag lovers. Created a sense of daily dread and fear with persistent ever changing terror warnings and threats. Never ever actually caught the actual terrorists nor convicted any.

Now we could go further back to assassinations, civil wars when we were nowhere close to being the supreme global power we currently are. We have had testing times and this is one, but it ain’t the worst.

Donald Trump is everything the right could have hoped for if he just weren’t so Trumpian. He can’t help but step on his own dick every fuckin day, and Twitter provides. It would be considered some crazy voodoo level multi tier game of chess strategy but it’s so regularly at the expense of his own messaging or self preservation that it is just the way he is. Every single move he makes is for one of two reasons. What is best for Donald in that moment or what could gain me the biggest payoff (financially, infamy etc). If we had elected Cruz, Kasich, Rubio, Jeb, Ben fuckin Carson, they’d have actually been able to tell when to shut up and just read the prepared note cards. They could be managed and would listen. Trump still thinks executive orders are laws. He thinks treaties are about winning a prize. He thinks parades show strength. He thinks arrows up in pictographs mean everything is good. He is simple, stupid, uninterested and too fuckin insane to be controlled long enough to really fuck this country badly in a way that cannot be fixed.

We can lament what he has done, and feel for those currently being fucked, but unlike other times we have such a giant footprint on everything in this world that no one can even dream of building a coalition of forces, of finances, of trade pacts of anything sufficient to knock this country off. It’s why the world is making minor moves and waiting. We have elections. November he can be knee capped and then he is a lame duck under investigation for 2 years. If Dems let him flail and flop the damage will be to the GOP who sold out any ideals regarding country and flag for an orange turd too stupid to just sign his name and lie to Lester Holt.

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I am stunned at the level of stupidity of the people surrounding the people who are ‘in charge.’ They are all bottom feeders. It’s as if they would die if someone did remind them every few seconds to take another breath.

It’s no wonder the Mueller probe is taking so long. Just when he thinks he has turned over all the rocks, they find one more snake buried in the ground.

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I know. Some of these guys are supposedly reasonably intelligent. But that claim is hard to square with some of their actions. Maybe they’re just cracking under the pressure, which, to be fair, must be immense and at a level people who haven’t been there can’t imagine. Then again, they weren’t exactly circumspect back in the pre-donnie days, either. They just didn’t get caught because no one was looking.

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You make a good point. With any of the above we would be in the same position or worse with respect to Supreme Court and federal judges, Obamacare rollback, tax “reform,” the shredding of environmental regulations, etc. Trump’s unparalled incompetence has prevented things from being worse. I really hope that by having the Mueller investigation run its course, and having the Dems take at least the House this fall, sufficient damage will be done to the GOP to set them back for a generation. If not, then I really fear for our country. Because the GOP has proven time and again that they are always capable of afflicting us with a worse president than their last one.

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At this rate, it’ll have to be called Facepalm-book. I guess these guys really are this dumb. Maybe next they’ll issue threats via Youtube.

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