Discussion: After Guilty Plea, Sam Patten Feuded With Former Georgian Officials On Facebook

This! Tie every single Republican in Congress and in State legislatures to Trump. He is the embodiment of their values, the embodiment of their morals, and this is how they want to run the country.

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Keep digging your holes deeper, guys!

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Umm, we are losing our Supreme Court to the party of nihilism and we are talking about damage to them?

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Before the election President Obama said that DT was not suited to be in the WH. I suppose he privately said something along those lines to DT too. Not that anyone would expect DT to take that advice.

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Lots and lots and lots of crime in the Donald Trump underworld.

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These guys are all very stable geniuses. I think he needs an attorney who will tell him to shut the fuck up.

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Umm, I was agreeing with a point that @lionel_hutz made about the 2016 GOP field, and how things could have been worse, and could get worse still if we do not take the House. I was not opining on Kavanagh nomination, which for the record, I think is a catastrophe. Are you suggesting that discussion of the GOP beyond the Kavanaugh nomination is out of bounds?

I have a stupid question – this guy just got done for five years or so for improperly lobbying for foreign entities; why is he using social media to make things worse?

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Can someone explain to me why Buffy kitten-fighting with Jodi imperils Buffy’s legal status?

That should be the goal. Fuck Trump. But let him say the most hateful, stupid, ignorant things. Things that have zero connection to the core advancements of conservative wet dreams and then hang those quotes on every sitting and running Republican. Make his harry, fat orange ass the anchor it should be rather than the big baby balloon we snicker at.

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And if the dotard had not nominated Kavanaugh to the SCOTUS we may never have known that he voted to allow foreign money into American political contests. Now according to his brief it is legal for these oligarchs to contribute dark money to the NRA or Paul Ryan’s PAC. That to me is one of the most stunning revelations to come out of the hearings, that he would expand Citizen’s United into a worldwide campaign funding mechanism.

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Trump didn’t cost us SCOTUS, Senate Republicans violating all norms refusing to even hold hearings the last year of Obama did. They won that one and stole the seat. They’ve stolen the Whitehouse twice too since 2000. Why are we hung up on what’s been done and pointing it out to those on our side as reminders and complaints. Just get on with what’s next. The presidency can and has worked around a hostile judiciary. Judges retire our die, our country and ideals are not beholden to the opinions of 5 men.

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No. But your attempts to distract are noted.

Yeah, banning abortion is no big thing?

Michael Crichton in “A Case of Need” writes about the good old days when abortion was illegal and women died as a consequence.

Yes that’s exactly what I said. Because me being pragmatic about where we are is what made it possible for 5 basically white men (Thomas honorary) to decide a case that hasn’t gotten in front of the court. It’s exactly how Roberts ended ObamaCare.

Abortion is important to me. Personally it saved my wife’s life. With a young daughter who’s future is unknown I don’t take it lightly but my entire political world isn’t consumed by something I have no control over the outcome of at this moment. Will protesting right this moment mean Trump doesn’t seat his judge? Not in a dream world but in this current world. Will screaming at other liberals through my keyboard?

I read these posts in The Hive, should we fight dirty? What does that even mean. I understand Josh and many are institutionalists. That the structure and system and traditions of that system are important. As liberals, Democrats what ever we argue amongst ourselves constantly because that’s what intellects do. It’s often though a microcosm of the huge fights in our society. It’s pragmatism vs idealism. In a perfect world I’d love for us to work in the current framework tweeking and honing it to modern issues, ignored issues of yesteryear. I’d love for us to be the greatest generation. But that’s idealism. That’d just too close to worshipping a higher power for me. Instead I choose in this current time to be pragmatic. To see where we are and what we can do better, stall, use as a weapon against my enemy. A lot of us are uncomfortable with that term. Enemy. It’s not nice it’s not right. Do you think Republicans argue about how they win. Do they say oh no, it’s not right to take away liberties and rights and deny women options in their own healthcare if it means we have to just stall for a year on a SCOTUS seat and then cast our lot in an election with a terrible corrupt man and his failing criminal syndicate of a family. No. They do what’s necessary and sleep like the dead. We don’t win and lose on single issues that have yet to be decided. Abortion. Entitlements. Undocumented children. We shouldn’t be this easy to divide up. There are more of us. We have more money, more education, the best states overall. We invent most of the tech. Create most of the content. Let’s gain power. Solidify that, then argue amongst ourselves about how to be great. Be California with a Republican party basically sidelined at the state level.

And don’t ever assume you know me and what I think because I don’t express my righteous indignation with the fury you do. Perhaps I’m just focused on the entire fuckin thing.

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I agree with you agreeing with me but, they embody nothing. Republicans will be Evangelicals if it gets them the Whitehouse. They will be Russian agents if it gets them the Whitehouse. They will talk family values and impeach a president for lying about affairs while they covet young boys and cheat on their mistresses.

They are political water. They have no form and will assume any shape they need to. Their party slogan since as long as I can recall should be. We love America, but we really hate Americans.

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Distract from what? The topic YOU want to talk about on a thread that has nothing to do with Kavanaugh’s nomination? Take your condescension elsewhere. I really don’t give a shit about what you have “noted.”

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Even if the source is Kennan, Friedman has the Midas touch in reverse - everything he touches turns to shit.

Ah yes, blameless Russia—especially under the saintly Poisoner himself—how could I have missed that.

The same but deeper threat to our democracy, is the alliance of the Republican Party and Russia, which coincides with the alliance of American Evangelicals and Russia.

Imagine if the South left the union again and became the promised autocratic/theocratic land of the Republicans and Evangelicals. Their premier most important alliance would undoubtedly be Russia; we in the North would have a long border with a Russian satellite state.

The Republicans, Evangelicals, Putin, and Russian klepocrat/ oligarch money are the deepest threat to our democracy, an alliance they remind us of everyday by Republican un-willingness to do anything about it. They are silent because of the truth of their betrayal.

Republicans are Traitors, and must be Destroyed; no forgive and forget after all this; no rehabilitation of the Republican Evil brand. They must be finished off politically once and for all, and become a historical artifact.

No Quarter, ever!

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