Discussion: Admiral Tells Trump It Would Be An 'Honor' To Get Security Clearance Revoked

I subscribe to wapo online and the NY.times on line/with newspaper home delivery that costs less than my over priced local Columbus newspaper.

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It’s so very nice to know that among all the scum and sleaze infesting the White House these days that there are still honorable men (and women too) who speak the truth and stand by their friends. Duty is not a matter of politics, nor is honor a matter of convenience
You subscribe an oath when you enter the Armed Forces. Anyone who has ever taken that oath or witnessed it being administered knows what it is supposed to mean and the lengths that people in the Armed Services may be asked to go in keeping that oath.
On the other side, members of Congress and the civilian government also swear an oath upon entering public office.
The oath taken by many members of the elected government has been made into a joke of convenience, and it has been weaponized for political gain, over and above the protection and general welfare of the citizenry.
That is why America has come to such a sorry state that some reprehensible people find it necessary to insult, belittle and destroy dedicated people who have given years of their lives, and the risk of those lives to the service of the American people.
There are still heroes in America, and heroism, like deep, quiet patriotism, will eventually point America’s way to a better day.
The turn of the American patriots will come in November. Americans must choose whom it is that they wish most to emulate, and from whom they will draw inspiration. Will it be people like Ret. Navy Adm. William McRaven, or people like Trump?
Never again let anyone tell you that there is no choice, or that the choice does not matter.

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Rand Paul. In fact, he bragged about it.

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The NYT (and WaPo and the Atlantic and the New Yorker) is the journalism I want and rely on. But ask me how tired am I about hearing about Haberman and her alleged crimes against Americans? Thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis much.

I’m finding the hard way that some people who are the most critical of having to pay for subs to newspaper presumably because of how they fail us over and over and over again don’t have Prime memberships. Watch for it.

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Suit yourself.

And you get the last word.

This reminds me of a Rubio tweet.

Flag / General Officers actually never really retire - they just go on inactive status.

More broadly speaking, this is a really dumb fight for both Trump and the GOP to pick.

First, in an age of falling regard for many govt. institutions, the IC and the military still command respect from most Americans - much higher than any politician.

Second, Adm. McRaven is a Seal who took down Bin Laden. He is considered a GOD in the military and the other security institutions. His letter is both a clarion call for his colleagues and a warning shot to the Politicos.

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This is the point. The POTUS IS the security system. If he or she is compromised, the whole system is compromised - there is NO backup plan. He can both look at any classified data he wants to, and prevent the dissemination of classified data to anyone else so as to prevent its use for anything he is against - like counter-intelligence, law enforcement or national defense. Theoretically he could pull the clearances of the entire SCO, leaving Mueller’s investigation dead in the water.

This is why the Congress SHOULD be on a hair trigger to impeach, convict and remove this guy from office if there is even a HINT that he is beholden to Putin.

The fact that after 18 months it is clear this guy is in Putin’s pocket but the GOP won’t even consider having the Judiciary Committees of either House look into it, is both scary and appalling. IMHO that means that anyone with an ® behind there name is complicit, and will NEVER get my vote again.

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I guess that’s the point of the image. The straw in itself would be meaningless, the reason it breaks the camel’s back is that it has been preceded by all the much heavier stuff.

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If anyone has a few minutes it might be worth a mosey through this article on Ms. Haberman.

http://www.citjourno.org/maggie1

Lazy may not have been the best description. There were/ are certain members who work very hard.
Too much media consolidation is the biggest factor now. That and too many cocktail parties whose attendees are supposed to be the ones covered. Fox News and other extremely partisan outlets who present skewed, even false, viewpoints.
Still, the truth does find its way to the top, even if too late. That has to change.

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Trump’s stunning incompetence and possible treachery, not Brennan, is THE national security threat of the highest order. Where are the Republicans? “MAWA” Make America White Again", Donny we’re with you, we’re the new Republican Sycophant Trump Republican Party. Yes we used to be against almost everything you politically, economically, and personally stand for like a $1.4T deficit to date or $1T + deficits for years into the future, crippling trade tariffs, ignored the family values of honesty, integrity, porn star philandering, world record serial lying, etc, heck we’d even forgive treachery now. However, we also understand 30% to 35% of American’s are intolerant, xenophobic, misogynist, or outright racists, and are your vehement supports and our majority. So only somewhat hypocritically, even though you are humiliatingly making liars and cowards of us too, we’re falling inline because without your naive, gullible, ignorant, intolerant, and desperately insecure deplorables, we’re afraid we couldn’t win a race for dog catcher.

A big story featured here today, Friday, about Omarosa (never thought I’d be giving this individual so much though) and her cache of 200 tapes was co written by Haberman and Vogel. So far according to the comments people are horrified by the revelations, but not horrified by either of the writers.

This is one amazing chart, color coded squiggly graph bars, numbers and more numbers, arrows! Thanks for sharing.

If what I’m reading lately is any presage, Nunes is likely to be declared redundant by his own constituents come November…

Low IQ lowlifes and dogs maybe…?

I know all about what happens when you’re being cleared. It was… invasive, to say the least.

I think Trump is creating a precedent that forces a change to that basic concept. I think we might end up adding some kind of requirement that a candidate must pass at least a basic background check before being issued a high level security clearance (or even qualifying to run for the office).

That or add a couple of layers of security. Who else is needed to activate the nuclear football, for example, and would they recognize an insane or unlawful order when they got one from a madman president? And shouldn’t “need to know” still dictate what a president sees and doesn’t see?

Trump has proven we may need to revisit all of this…

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