It’s January 20, 2025, and Donald Trump has just been inaugurated as president of the United States.
This is a companion discussion topic for the original entry at https://talkingpointsmemo.com/?p=1474388
This is a companion discussion topic for the original entry at https://talkingpointsmemo.com/?p=1474388
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We just have to make sure he doesn’t, because with republicans like this, we already have all the enemies we need. Pathetic.
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That’s definitely another lost “Profile in Courage!” cause for sure.
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Party over country, each and every time.
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Sununu - proving that a so-called “moderate” Republican is still a fucking Republican. Power first, country far behind.
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Easy peasey: Habeas corpus proceeding to spring Trump from any prison sentence during the course of his second term.
ETA: And since DOJ policy prohibits prosecuting a sitting president, the department would have to seek dismissal of the federal cases. The people have spoken, Your Honor.
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Or, in Trump’s case, a habeas obesus corpus proceeding.
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Which means that Sununu is a TRAITOR to Democracy!
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NONE of this must ever be allowed to happen. Trump must be DISQUALFIED from ever taking office as President, based upon the 14th Amendment to our Constitution. A Trump presidency would be the END OF AMERICAN DEMOCRACY. Read and listen to what he has been saying about what he intends to do. . . . BELIEVE HIM.
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I do believe him. The problem is the large number of people who also believe him and say, “that would be awesome, because suck it, libtards!”
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I wouldn’t go so far as to say Traitor to Democracy, I’d say he has differing definition of being true to his values.
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Any Republican still in office under the party banner this far after 2016 has clearly put party over country. The only solution is to vote them all out from President down to county dog catcher.
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Never in my wildest imagination did i think I would be witnessing history unfold before me with no historical analogy as to how it would end. For the first time in the 248 years since the signing of the Declaration of Independence the People may elect a convicted criminal as President. Future historians will say this was impossible to believe and yet it is true.
Gen. Günther Blumentritt: We are living an historical moment. We are going to lose the war because the glorious Fuhrer has taken a sleeping pill…and is not to be awakened. It’s unbelievable. Think of it Kurt, don’t ever forget it. We are witnessing something which historians will always say is completely improbable… and yet it is true. The Fuhrer is not to be awakened!!! I sometimes wonder which side God is on.
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The idea that Trump could pardon himself of Federal crimes is, on its face, absurd. This would mean that he could commit murder, human trafficking, money laundering, drug trafficking, wire fraud, embezzlement, counterfeiting…the list goes on with absolutely no possibility of prosecution and punishment. It is utterly impossible to imagine that this is what the writers of the Constitution had in mind. Then there is the opinion written in 1973 (and reaffirmed in 2000) during Watergate in an internal memo of the OLC that a sitting president is constitutionally immune from criminal prosecution and indictment. [Quoting a Reuters article.].
This opinion was written on paper but may as well have been written in stone as it continues to be unchallenged at a time when it would be a good idea to revisit it. Yes, allowing a president to be charged with a crime could be abused but NOT charging him is also abuse of the, now cliché, that no one is above the law. If the opinion assumed that the criming president could be charged after leaving office, then the five year Federal Statutes of Limitations can prevent the criminal from ever seeing justice. IANAL so this comment is an uninformed point of view and I welcome all corrections to give me hope that justice is not a meaningless concept for a president.
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Loyalty won’t feed my family.
I’ll vote for good judgment.
Chris doesn’t have it.
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I’m afraid “loyalty” is feeding Sununu’s family.
Party over country? No.
Money over country.
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And not just a criminal, but one whose crime is, actually if not in technical legal terms, treason.
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Assuming all this worst case shit were to happen, it still leaves the Georgia State case, where guilty on the RICO charge carries a minimum five year imprisonment. I guess the question then would be whether the Orange Asshole (and draft dodger) can strong arm the Governor into a blanket pardon.
My answer at this point would for the Joint Chiefs to initiate martial law, arrest Trump for treason, try him in GITMO, and sentence him to life in the Florence, CO Supermax, and then give control of the government to the Senate Majority Leader and the Speaker of the House in a joint conservator-ship until January 2029. Sad!
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Yeah, it’s meaningless if TMFWWNBN wins next year, he’ll walk by telling the DoJ to drop everything, SCROTUS will tell Georgia to FRO on trying the RICO case until after he’s no longer President (so, never), and he’ll pardon himself, just to be safe. Only thing that might dent him slightly is the NY civil fraud case, and unfortunately that’s only $$ not jail.
May trump’s legal hassles never leave him. He brought it all on himself by himself
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