Coalition Of Blue States And Cities Seek To Intervene In Alabama Census Case | Talking Points Memo

The 1790 census, and every other census through 1860, counted slaves. They were counted, for census purposes, as 3/5ths of a person. But they were counted.

Therefore we have a precedent. Everyone is counted. It’s a precedent even the troglodytes of the Supreme Court are bound to accept. Everyone has always been counted, even if their rights as citizens weren’t acknowledged. So you can’t count anyone as a zero.

Your point really doesn’t apply here. They are trying not to count “undocumented” persons. They can still count non-citizens, but exclude those who are undocumented. Different shade of animal.

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We also have a recent supreme court dissenting position from Thomas suggesting that the supreme’s shouldn’t feel bound by any precedent…

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I’ve heard that undocumented people often work under someone else’s SS number (employer designated). If so they pay into SSI, and it’s stolen from them.

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FWIW, David Proctor, the judge in this case, is a GWB appointee, but he does not appear to be a zealot. On the other hand, it’s the moderate centristy Republican judges who write the most plausible partisan decisions.

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Ratfuckery is a very cool word.

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To today’s GOP “States Rights” = White Rule.

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[OT] There’s more than one way to skin aTrump. Or, Melania should keep her friends much closer.

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When does the case against the ACA get decided that Barr won’t defend even though its his fucking job?

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Impeach the mothaf*cker before what’s left of our democracy is gone.

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And they used to say "governing is best done locally, until they decide that a city raising the minimum wage, no single use plastic bags, renewable energy is the way, then hell no.

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OT, but the false narrative continues to build…the GOP, Trump and McConnell are apparently the people who are going to be responsible for better background checks and “red flag” laws, not the Dems who have passed legislation that McConnell has cough red flagged…

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Employers with W2 employees pay Social Security & medicare taxes as well as unemployment insurance taxes, and typically withhold the employee’s portion of social Security and income taxes. Everyone who buys stuff pays sales taxes.

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States that aren’t being enriched by vibrant immigrant communities could easily attract more immigrants by just shit canning the racism. They just can’t bring themselves to do it, but that’s their own dumb fault, and the Republican opportunists who incite them. Not a judicial matter at all.

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I’m pissed about the straw bans. Starbucks issuing sippy-cup-lids to adults…

So…when will they decide to not count women?

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I thought they already did that? Also had Thomas declare that their right to vote is revoked, as it’s not in the original Constitution.

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I don’t think these antics will build trust in Texas, which as TPM has covered, is reeling from other problems.

“This debacle weakens the #Republican Party at the exact time it needs to be as strong as possible, because it’s facing the most formidable challenge from the #Democratic Party...since 2008,” says @MarkPJonesTX of #Texas House Speaker Bonnen’s missteps: https://t.co/DqZnaTeRfR

— Baker Institute (@BakerInstitute) August 12, 2019
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The lawsuit has appeared to be a long-shot given that the Constitution mandates apportionment based on “whole number of persons in each state.” That language has been nearly universally interpreted to mean persons regardless of citizenship or legal status.

Is it interpreted to include dead people?

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Be more creative. What about fetal rights? If they’re people, then every zygote should be counted.

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“States Rights” has always been code for “white rule”, whether invoked by the ‘southern strategy’ GOP or pre-1964-civil-rights-act democrats.

Conversely, when white rule is threatened, federalism is invoked - from the fugitive slave act right through to the the anti-sanctuary cities laws being pushed by the GOP today

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