I agree. Nonetheless this isn’t a court of law, so my standard is somewhat less stringent.
How does common law battery differ from battery?
me too
I was hoping for the real evidence
it’s out there somewhere
Been there, done that, have the tee shirt. /snark> Now, run along and play in traffic with scissors.
maybe three years of non-stop trumpian fog is gettin to us all
not much gas left in my tank
I am lucky though, I got a new puppy that makes some of this shit fade into the background
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The article is about something before a court of law. If there wasn’t a court of law involved there would be no story. My concern is how she weakens the argument of all other women who come before a court of law if such a trivial encounter is to be claimed as assault. I am interested in having people who commit sexual crimes punished by the law, not scolded on internet comments.
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Thank you. I have been kissed on the cheek dozens of times in business situations, not once welcome, and have never once initiated such an embrace. In fact, it is offensive to see professional peers who are male receive a handshake while (the notably fewer) females receive cheek kisses. Moreover, business etiquette requires a neutral response at least; to demur could be viewed as impolite or even hostile, with the attendant risk of being perceived as too sensitive, militant, or (you know) not belonging in the professional workplace.
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Ah, a new puppy, new best friend! Good for you!
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A reminder to all that ‘battery’ is not the same as ‘assault’.
Definition . 1. In criminal law , this is a physical act that results in harmful or offensive contact with another person without that person’s consent. 2. In tort law , the intentional causation of harmful or offensive contact with another’s person without that person’s consent.
I’ve served on a couple of juries related to sexual assault & molestation. Judges’ instructions were very clear on this distinction.
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You and I share that interest and no scold was directed to you. If you feel that I have done so, please point it out and I will apologize.
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Why would a woman have the right to assault a man?
That’s awesome! I wish I could get a dog, but work work work…sigh…
They wouldn’t, did I say they did?
In the US*, in a business situation, it is NEVER okay to kiss somebody. Certainly, if only the women are given kisses you have created a problem.
*This ain’t Italy. And by the way, Italy is notorious for patriarchal misogyny.
ETA: No, no, no, a woman shouldn’t go around kissing the guy at work either. Sheesh.
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It’s extremely complicated. I lived in Latin America for many years and although somewhat common in many countries for a man to to greet a woman with a kiss (although not really a kiss, unless a true friend or relative, it’s just a slight touching of the chicks), it’s best to let the woman initiate, guys too eager can come off as creeps.
It varies from region to region, not surprising is more common in larger more cosmopolitan places, in rural areas that will get you stabbed. It’s not done in business settings, but once I was surprised when a client invited me for lunch at his house and his wife greeted me with a kiss.
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He doesn’t give handshakes to women. Yes, his handshakes are power plays. Maybe that applies to what he does to women, too?
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Have to side with the trumpsters on this one. There’s nothing “forcible” going on in that video. It even looks less so in slow motion.
It’s not the “offensive” part that makes the distinction though, but simply “contact”. From what I understand, assault is the (perceived) threat of that contact.
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Obama was just out of frame to the right, pushing her toward the Manchurian Cantaloupe.
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If I understand the rules correctly, she would have to get permission first.