White House coronavirus response coordinator Deborah Birx pointed to CDC guidelines when pressed on President Trump’s demand for houses of worship to reopen, during Sunday morning interviews.
A health professional that is as slippery as an eel is not a good sign.
The United Methodist conference in Wisconsin’s bishop has said nothing re-opens until 21 June 2020 and after that, we’ll see how the guidelines go.
My church is going to continue to offer their on-line worship, but for those who need in-person (and we have a number of elderly that are NOT on line in any capacity), reservations will be taken so the leadership can be certain to adhere to social distancing within the sanctuary and contactless efforts for distributing bulletins and collecting offering.
None of the arrangements are finalized entirely yet, but this is what being responsible leadership looks like.
Fie on those other congregations who insist that in-person is the only acceptable form.
It woz them wot done it!
Just another hostage video. nevermind.
The really poisonous implication here is that the virus is only seriously dangerous for the oldz and the immunosuppressed and so forth. It can kill or damage anyone. She’s adopted the deadly cynicism of the entire GOP and she can go to hell.
Dr Brix has no more credibility
Oh please Dr. Birx the damage has been done. This past week in MO there were two cases where two different hair stylist’s that work at two different Great Clips came into work. And in each case they tested positive and potentially spread the infection to 80+ people.
The comments on these news stories is that people:
die of the flu
it’s the same thing as the flu
the numbers of deaths is greater than car accidents
the number of deaths is greater for the flu
people need to work to pay their bills
the numbers of deaths is over reported and eggagerated
that by keeping people in their houses children are dying of neglect or abuse
Suicide rates are going up
Domestic abuse is going up
Washing ones hands won’t kill a virus
Old people die everyday so what’s the big problem
When people gather in a house of worship they feel protected because those people don’t go to work.
ETA: that should have been worship not work, my bad
And these people get that information, precisely, from where, right? From these nincompoops purporting to be experts. And no one ever calls them out on this BS. I’m sorry but we have become the stupidest nation on earth for continuing to allow these myths to be reported daily, hourly. without challenge.
The CDC? You mean the same CDC that recommends everyone wear face masks in public? Oh yeah, that CDC.
Dr Birx has become a tool of the malAdministration. I understand that she probably justifies it to herself that she is sticking with it to minimize the damage but she has destroyed her own credibility by doing so. I now view her as just another sycophant and that is sad
Neither the Methodists, nor Lutherans, Presbyterians, UCC or any other “mainstream” protestant church is eager to re-open, and the reason is because most of their parishioners are over 60, any outbreak and they find themselves out of flock.
It’s the more aggressive right wing evangelicals with younger flocks that are making all the noise.
“Dammit Chris, I’m a doctor. We’re not known for having opinions, or prescribing/forbidding behaviors and activities!”
I left out the complaint that this news organization or that news paper also pull the race card. I’ve even seen posters complain about the new reporting when quoting someone, not the reporters’s analysis, the actual quote of an interviewee.
Way back in the day in grade school we all were required to read the news paper, clip out stories to talk about in class. They were teaching us critical thinking and the skills we’d need to make rational and well thought out decisions.
There is a reason that intelligent people who spend any time around Trump start to sound weaselly and compromised. Everyone who values their position laughs at the mob boss’ jokes. You have to try to speak while simultaneously calculating if anything you say might sound like it is upstaging or contradicting someone who has said basically everything and nothing about any given topic.
It’s complicated.
I think what you are looking for is “charismatic” congregations. And those can be found on the fringes of most denominations.
Which article of the Constitution grants the president the power to order churches to open?
Josh pointed out that a Ricky Sandler, hedge fund manager, was encouraging a tone-deaf version of the Copenhagen strategy apparently laid out to Trump in the very earliest chapters of the pandemic. If you have the stomach.
https://ichooseherdimmunity.com
I’m pretty sure that in previous centuries we would not have had ichoosecholera.com, or ichoosesmallpox.com. Indeed, Italy had the #Milanneverstops six weeks after it should have had. The path to herd immunity without a vaccine is constrained – by definition – by the strain the health care system can sustain, which isn’t that much even a first-world country like the US. Vaccines will probably provide the most likely path to herd immunity, but we shouldn’t assume they will be any more effective than current flu vaccines. And we cannot assume that herd immunity lasts very long. Coronaviruses account for about a third of colds, and you do not hear much discussion of herd immunity in that context. Imagine we spend the next 24 months systematically infecting 70% of the population only to discover it was a waste of time? Perhaps we should instead establish a secretary position for the Department of Innate Immunity.
Just a few days ago, Birx said that she didn’t trust anything coming out of the CDC. Now she says to trust their guidelines. I agree that Birx has no credibility. Not that I thought she did after making excuses for Trump’s “drink Clorox” comments.
Once again - The GOP proves they believe in quantum mechanics with the adoption of
It is both safe - and unsafe - to follow their statements.
