And I clicked on the article (along with others 
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–Mission Accomplished–
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Anyone else suspect that the group that’ll oppose this lowering the age most will be old assholes that are on Medicare and feel their benefits may be in danger of running out sooner if more people are allowed to buy in?
Myself, I’m on Medicare and don’t need it. Wasn’t excited to sign up as required. So I could care less. But I’m thinking the GOP will try to message this idea that Medicare will run out of money sooner if the age is lowered. Joe may be anticipating that and taking a baby step first.
Sooner or later Warren and Sanders are going to have to give their enthusiastic support.
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As usual, far left policies are popular until you start including in the polling the requirement to actually pay for them. Then, not so much.
Single payer healthcare would require tax increases. The fact that these increases would be pretty much completely offset by lower health costs for a vast number of Americans, doesn’t seem to get through to most voters. All they hear is “Tax increase”
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Biden is a conservative and not in any cognitive state to be his own man even if he was inclined to make concessions to liberals. His conservative ruling power elite handlers have no intention of doing anything liberal plus Trump will more than likely cancel the election.
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I agree with you about the article being more “pie inducing” than anything else but there’s more than just a grain of truth telling and some instructive information for rational people to latch onto.
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Yes, but I wouldn’t have thought to include The Economist among Sanders supporters!
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~beep~
/stop message
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“Uncomfortable” meaning “vote-losing.”
“Let us ram your campaign into the ground just like we did Bernie’s and Warren’s.”
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I can understand those responses to a great extent, though I would urge politeness rather than hostility. By the same token, a little humility and grace on the part of AOC (and other Berners) would go a long way. They are not in a position to dictate. Even Bernie should carefully craft his message and asks.
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You read the articles?
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Yes. These are things to be discussed. Rationally and with an eye on the worst human being ever elected to any office in the United States of America.
And knowing that this election is an airplane with no parachute: we get this wrong and it is equivalent to a meteor strike.
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its a question of turnout. Democrats may need strong turnout among infrequent voters – including voters on the left who feel alienated from the system, and need a reason to turn out on election day. To a lot of people, Biden now represents the scenic route that winds up in the same place that Trump will take us on the express route.
Biden is simply the wrong candidate for 2020 – but as of right now, he’s the candidate we’re stuck with. Our best hope is to make him a better candidate – which is what AOC is trying to do.
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So we’re talking about a ‘progressive concession’ that is 10 years worse than what the nominee had in 2016
Senator, you’ve been in Congress since 2018, and you haven’t even managed to lower it to 64.
Chill. Be fair, lest someone accuse the “progressive movement” of being only leftist liars like the “conservative movement.”
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AOC and her gang always trot out FDR and the New Deal he put forward. They never reference the idea that the New Deal didn’t include some groups of people and had to gradually phase in benefits that the majority of Americans could enjoy.
That art of the possible.
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Honestly, nothing will move the most fervent Bernie folks. Time to ignore them completely. With the death Trump has wrought, anyone who thinks that there is any issue other than removing Trump from office is a complete idiot, no better than Trump’s MEGA-morans. Better for Biden to appeal to the sane middle, undecideds (and the few sane Repubs) than waste time on far-left loonies. This election is the final chance to save the Republic and save our own lives. We are out of time. If the far-left loonies don’t get on board, we simply start the train and leave them behind, and that includes AOC.
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as usual, we hear the dog whistle democrat citation of GOP talking points in an effort to discredit the left. Its exactly the kind of crap that turns off the very voters that Biden may need to win in 2020 – a fact which AOC is trying to explain to Biden and his supporters, apparently with little success.
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Ofcourse any concession Biden makes now will be followed by accusations from moderates (and cheers from progressives) that he caved. No one likes a weak candidate.
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Let’s just get trump out of office, OK Alexandra? Now’s not the time to play games.
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These “uncomfortable” policy changes were obviously not popular enough to seal the deal for Sanders or Warren, so they probably wouldn’t become anymore popular if Biden supported them either.
Lowering the Medicare age to 50 or 55 seems reasonable. I could go along with that.
Anything more to the left on immigration, though, is a sure loser.
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I hope not… that’s how 2016 was lost.
I’m still disappointed we are stuck with Joe as the nominee, but is suspect Hubris is less a problem with Joe and that is not of the mind to say such things
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