AOC Wants ‘Uncomfortable’ Concessions From Biden To Party’s Left Flank | Talking Points Memo

Hmmmm. I remember when Hillary Clinton in 2016 before the convention said she wanted all sides at the table. What did these left wing irrational nuts do to her? They acted out at the convention and stayed home on election day or voted for the treasonous criminal in the WH.

Fool me once,…

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The Biden situation is basically vote for him or Trump wins. I think more attention should be paid to keeping the House and WINNING THE SENATE. I’m sure that Biden wants to see Congress return to its full functionality. Pass Progressive legislation and President Biden will sign it.

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If the left flank needs “treats” in order to vote for the party nominee, then they aren’t very good Democrats, are they?

The losers do not get to dictate the platform that the winner runs on.
Period.
Full stop.

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If trump cancels the election (which he cannot) he will be out of office regardless. Then rules of succession apply. Hello President Pelosi.

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If Sanders had pushed himself further to the middle in order to make “uncomfortable” concessions to Democratic moderates, he might have won the nomination.

He refused.

Should Joe go a little further left?

Maybe just a little on healthcare.

AOC isn’t giving him near enough credit, though, for his accommodations on student loans.

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I suspect AOC agrees.

Which means the left has enough support to require, to some extent, some concessions in the 2020 party platform.

Anything else is also “playing games”

Fortunately, he doesn’t need them and they’ve proven themselves to be completely unreliable. (Well, except for attending rallies where birds fly onto the podium).

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yeah, when Biden’s the nominee, his corporate sponsors get to do that.

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We’re not “stuck” with Joe.

He was the resounding choice of the vast majority of Democrats.

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That’s a good point – and a question that AOC should have been asked.

(I accept your “might have” for the sake of the argument.)

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Beg to differ, we are and we will all make the best of it…

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No. Joe won because people are scared shitless of another 4 years of Trump.

Joe is to many “the safe choice”

His exact policy positions are not what won things for him, or lost them for Bernie.

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Bullshit.

First, Biden has no “corporate sponsors.”

Second, the platform committee creates the platform, votes on it, and presents it to the rest of the party at the convention.

You remain relentlessly stupid.

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and yet, the dog whistle dem’s who dominate this board will tell you that its because these people didn’t voter for Hillary in 2016 that she lost. It couldn’t have been her fault – including her complete failure to recognize the seriousness of the last minute Comey crap, and adjust her campaign accordingly.

No, the reason Hillary lost is because bernie voters voted for Jill Stein or some other stupid theory, because its always the left’s fault.

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I’m going to stick to the pact, so I’ll simply say this: she learned nothing from 2016.

The conversation and debate about policy needs to be had but she’s shutting it off from the get-go. Caging it as a hostage situation and ransom due = Trump’s second term. Period. Perceiving every offer and olive branch as an insult and/or evidence that more can be extracted, such that all offers are never enough OR THAT ALL OFFERS ARE ACTUALLY TURNED INTO NEGATIVES AND SOURCES OF RESENTMENT = Trump’s second term. Period. Bernie and his supporters are not in the driver’s seat and don’t get to steer the vehicle by proxy by trying to put a gun to everyone’s heads. If that’s the starting premise…and it quite clearly still appears to be based on her statements…then yes, it’s divisive and will create the opposite of unity and we will lose.

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whether or not he would receive her full-throated endorsement was a different matter.

“Beating Donald Trump is a matter of life or death for our communities,”

Then endorse Biden. Not everything needs to be a war.

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Tom-A-to, Tom-AH-to…

Unless some major event, he will be the nominee. So we are stuck with him.

Or “blessed” to have him.

Both are true.

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Egads.

The Republicans Biden used to work with don’t exist anymore. There has to be some truth and reconciliation going forward, but there also has to be the kind of unity cabinet and government that can help heal some of the political divide. Thomas Friedman in the Times took a stab at this, and it means integrating (or co-opting, if you prefer) the likes of Hogan, DeWine, even Mittens. But never the McCarthys, Jordans, McConnells etc. They need to be purged and discredited fully, even as we get behind some kind of New Deal type of unity.

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