Anti-Abortion Lawmakers Seek To Police Behavior Across State Lines

With SB 8, Texas Republicans showed the world exactly how much the Supreme Court would let them get away with.


This is a companion discussion topic for the original entry at https://talkingpointsmemo.com/?p=1409169
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A Supreme Court majority is making it crystal clear that it is their personal power and not the law that is supreme.

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And that is why literally every Presidential election for the rest of time needs to repeatedly hammer home ‘it’s about the Supreme Court, because you don’t get to vote them out’.

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YEP… the best court GOP money could buy.

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This is akin to the Unconstitutional Fugitive Slave Act. What next, saying people can never move out of a state or go on a vacation to another state? Not surprised the Confederacy came up with this shit.

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Wait til they find out this means New York could pass a law making it illegal for someone to deny a woman an abortion in another state and then they could prosecute people in Missouri.

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Good one. Pencils are being sharpened now, I’m sure, to pass a law banning the banning in another state. But then they’ll pass a law in Missouri banning the banning of the banning in another state. Where does it stop?

It will only stop when SCOTUS hurries up and ditches this absurd Texas law.

And seriously, remember that abortion was specifically chosen as a wedge issue to distract people while their pockets are being picked. Well-meaning people against the right to choose need to understand the history of the cynical way that the “powers that be” brought the issue to the fore.
(This guy was there: Frank Schaeffer is angry about abortion and evangelicals, and he's getting louder .)

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We’re getting there!. Soon if you come from Alabama and smoke a joint in Oregon…off to jail with you when you get back to Alabama.

NO matter how much you abhorred abortion in 1975 you would not have dreamed of using this legal tactic. At that time what an American was prohibited anyone from adopting this kind of thinking. In 1975 NO ONE would have a complimentary word for Russia. If you did the outrage would rock the trees. In 1975 it was illegal to donate millions to a political cause and no one would tolerate any political donations of any amount being done in the dark. In 1975 the notion of concealed carry without permit or training would have been thought dangerous not patriotic. In 1975 we got our polio and smallpox vaccines without anyone thinking bitching about “freedom” a thing. Isn’t it odd that 1975 was the time most MAGA’s cite as when America was great?

The law isn’t changing. America and Americans are.

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Yes, the inmates are running the asylum, abetted by cynical, greedy scum. Indeed, communism (aka Russia or the USSR) was really really bad news for a long, long time. People might should be reminded that the Russians really are Communists, and support for Putin and/or Russia is support for communism. (This might not be so totally accurate, but, when you’re up against total bullshit, you’ve got to sling back with elements of truth or you’ll get nowhere.)

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States rights was never about States rights.

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I can’t speak to the legal aspects of this, which are obviously some overwhelming figure like 99 percent plus, but it does seem fundamentally unsound just in its reasoning and general approach in at least a couple of ways. The whole idea of offloading the responsibility to private citizens seems like a cheap trick, because even if the government doesn’t directly act against a violator, it empowered those private citizens to do so. Second, isn’t the Supreme Court watering down and hollowing out its ability to make decisions and have them become and remain settled law? It seems to be setting aside Roe because six justices feel like it. It might be doable, obviously, there being no Supremer Court to appeal it to, but it certainly feels unsound and subject to reversal when different justices feel differently about things, and maybe we really don’t want rulings on issues like this weathervaning around that way. Just saying.

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Don’t limit this to the Presidential elections - Senate matters, too. A Dem President with a GQP Senate isn’t going to get any seats filled (see McConnell/Obama 2016).

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What next for these people, internal passports*?

*for women only

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Who asked MO to “Show me” stupid?

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Guarantees a run towards the lowest human behavior for the entire country, mob rule as long as any state institutionalizes it under their law.

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the fanatical, moronic rightwing never thinks through the logical outcome of their stupid attempts to shove their dangerous religious views on the rest of us. They think that they can get laws passed that will remain forever, and that the SCOTUS will always be in the hands or rightwing ideologues.
History shows that eventually the pendulum swings back to the other side, and the farther they go to the right, the farther it will swing back to the left. That is when the fanatical left gets to force all the little right-wingers to have an abortion because we don’t like them.

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The big difference between the past and now is they are gaming the system to ensure right wing ideologues have permanent control of the court.

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Thanks for the wonderful memories of a wonderful time. 1975 was a very good time compared to now in many many ways.

Seems the world was celebrating the Nixon resignation, the bicentennial was coming up and party music was crazy happy. A good time.

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Didn’t have to ask. There are a number of stupid state legislators.

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“They tell you that there’s a war on women. There is no war on women. There may be a war on what’s inside of women, but there is no war on women in this country.”
— Dr. “Sleepy” Ben Carson, noted self-determination advocate

And people, like myself, are wondering why the court hasn’t been expanded — yesterday!

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