We’ve really got to stop saying this so categorically. It will probably make no difference to most of his base. We don’t know that for certain; we don’t know how many people in that base have doubts that every new outrage intensifies. We don’t now how many have quietly leached away. But there were literally millions of non-supporters who voted for him anyway in 2016. Many will not vote for him now because of all these revelations. It makes a difference.
Nor Ivanka…
Yes, I doubt many people are surprised – but I don’t think that by itself should devalue a woman’s accusation or experience.
I don’t think anyone aims at changing their minds anymore, though. This is about both of the undecided voters.
Fair point. I’m defining his base as that unshakeable 40-ish%. Supporters outside of that block might be swayed by this, but I don’t consider them part of the base.
I throttled one the other day so there’s only one left.
I knew you were Antifa.
Ewwww. And truuuue.
h/t @kurisuS
Excellent observations.
You said it.
And there are too many others like him.
Truer words were never spoken!
I agree, and this accusation is nothing if not on brand. But it will make a difference, by building on the confirmation that he’s a repulsive pig.
The evangelicals and Barr will say he was just having harmless fun. Boys will be boys.
Predators will be predators.
Yes. And never forget how many people just didn’t like that demonic harridan who was running against him. Wouldn’t want to have a beer with her.
Fair point as well. I’ll concede that if you’re unshakable it won’t make a difference. He’s north of two dozen assaults at this point and I think if you were shakable you’d already have been shaken. ![]()
Of course it shouldn’t, even if they are surprised. And I don’t want to hear “Why did she wait so long to make it public?” either. That too should be clear enough by now.
Yes, exactly.
I have no reason – less than zero – to disbelieve her.
And whether one is the first or the fiftieth, it takes courage to speak out, especially against a deranged but enabled monster like Trump.
Hate to tell you men this, but most women are familiar with and have encountered this type of man and know what he’s capable of. This type of story matters because it will remind us and motivate us to act and vote, even if we otherwise stay silent.
His base doesn’t care, it may cause them concern if he also is accused by a woman of color. But not for what he is accused of, but that he didn’t stay among his own.