Does anyone understand why the third defendant is not being identified?
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The unidentified people, and higher ups who may very well have aided these truly violent insurrectionists, absolutely know who they are. Perhaps some of them will talk, if only to cut a deal before it all comes out and they are indicted.
To the extent possible, there sure ought to be court orders allowing tracking and recording their communications, even today.
Another important observation: Telegram turned out to be not so secure after all, it seems.
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Obstruction of an official proceeding is a felony punishable by up to 20 years in prison. Given the violence involved with these losersâ obstruction, my guess is theyâll do around 10 years even if they plead out.
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I can live with thatâŚespecially if in order to get down to the 10 years, they point the finger at FatAss and his WH Hitler Youth.
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They can all point the finger at Trump as their inspiration. Thatâs not really under dispute. The open question is whether any of them can point the finger at Trump as their co-conspirator, and these losers donât have anywhere near that level of cachet.
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Thereâs a theft charge. 18 USC 641, Theft of Government Property
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Any charges on destruction of government property? Because I want them to pay for the clean up and replacement of damaged/destroyed govât property, based on retail not cost.
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Youâre right â I wasnât precise in what I meant. By âpointing the fingerâ I actually meant complete with supplying concrete assertions or tangible proof that hasnât necessarily been picked up as yet via phone, email or other communications.
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A few months ago someone took a plea deal that included conspiracy. Hasnât been sentenced yet that I know of, which makes me think theyâve been cooperating.
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Likely because he hasnât been arrested yet, and may be on the lam.
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Standard rollup technique in a mob prosecution.
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Did someone let a mosquito into the room? Because Iâm hearing a pissy little whine.
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You are mistaken. A few dozen people have been charged with conspiracy to obstruct, mostly among the Proud Boys, Oath Keepers, and Three Percenters. Some have pleaded guilty and are cooperating with prosecutors.
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Heâll be identified in the arrest warrant. The indictment mentions âand othersâ in the telegram chat group. So I think there will be more names to come.
San Fernando valley residents (california). Guess they couldnât hack it as woodsmen.
O/T - Another Anti-Vax Nutjob goes to meet his makerâŚ
https://www.joemygod.com/2021/11/anti-vax-televangelist-marcus-lamb-dies-of-something
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Iâm just pointing out the reality. Every day that passes pushes us deeper into a zone Justice wonât go.
The signs have been clear for a while now, Garland will not pursue this. Heâs going to help the House investigation but no further.
This will demoralize Americans and Democrats seeking justice for the 6th.
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Every sentenced defendant has been getting hit with restitution, usually around $1000-$2000.
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Less than completely accidental ones.
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The next to be indicted is the âWeâre Going to Washington to Overthrow the Whole Fucking Governmentâ group. Ted Cruz and Josh Hawley describe them as âjust a bunch of manly men taking a stroll through the Capitol like any other tourists.â Legal experts were divided about whether government would be able to prove intent.
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