After her testimony was delayed for five hours as non-committee member Republicans stormed the secure hearing room, top Pentagon official Laura Cooper finally spoke for over three hours on Wednesday.
Rep. Mark Meadows (R-NC) was quick to say that some aspects of her testimony contradicted that of Ukraine diplomat Bill Taylor
âHe said the call took place at 11:30AM, she said it took place at 11:45, so clearly this whole investigation is a travesty! Itâs a travesty of a mockery of a sham of a mockery of two mockeries of a sham!â
GOP pols have gone into total game theory mode. Winning: or at least holding ground, is everything. They donât even pretend to care about principles any more.
They never cared about principles. Just protecting their seats and blaming HRC for everything.
What youâre seeing is a country without much of a spiritual grounding (notice I avoided the word, âreligionâ) trying to come to grips with a moral dilemma. The resulting chaos is disheartening and entirely predictable. We have no guarantee the politics of this will work out well, but, at the very least, the truth has escaped and you canât stuff it back in the bag, no matter how hard you try.
Morning all,
Buckle up and hang on
going to be a wiz bang of a day.
Hope by the the end of it the gop is way deeper into the hole they are digging.
âThe Republican stunt was likely an attempt to change the narrative on the impeachment inquiry, as evidence against Trump stacks up.â
May the ghost of Bluto Blutarsky come back to haunt them. This is a case of Stolen Squalor.
Maybe Matt Gaetz will get a pie in the face??
That lack of a spiritual grounding has always been there, it took Trump to really take advantage of it and bring it out into the open. We can only hope that the majority isnât depraved enough to let this continue beyond the next election.
the word âmoralâ would have been better, I think, because unlike âreligiousâ or âspiritualâ it doesnât connote supernatural beliefs that many decent people donât hold.
Hopefully, a cow pieâŚ
In Watergate, once the âsmoking gunâ tape was uncovered that showed Nixon had knowledge of the cover-up months before he said he had, Nixonâs defense was shattered and the Republicans were able to convince him to resign since they could not guarantee he would not lose an impeachment vote in the Senate.
This will not happen with Trump. Surrounded by smoking guns, many of them made public by Trump himself, Republicans are choosing to ignore all laws, norms and constitutional issues in their zeal to condemn anyone who dares tell the truth. They are shooting Democrats and Republicans alike in their efforts to protect this man whom many loathe in private. Only disastrous polls will have any effect on what they do going forward, and Trumpâs personal response is an unknown quantity. In adopting these tactics, they have completely turned their backs on the Constitution and are setting one dangerous precedent after another for how future cases of flagrant disregard for abuse of power, nepotism, self-enrichment and incompetence are to be judged.
Though Trump may lose some of his more ridiculous claims in the courts, the fact that we have come this far and he is still in office bodes poorly for our ability to withstand the day when someone who is as ruthless as he is but actually clever in his machinations manages to win the office once again. And it will happen again.
I think itâs pretty clear that the Republicans didnât help their cause at all with this childish stunt. Iâm still betting Trump will be gone by Christmas, but with a few more stunts like these, he might be gone by Thanksgiving.
Wrong, Republicans have a spiritual groundingâŚin Ayn Randâs I Got Mine And F You Objectivism!
Hereâs the tell: she testified anyway, for 3 hours, Dems were âtight-lipped,â and THATâs what they were trying to distract from.
They should have left the Black Jack table quite a while ago. They are chasing losses at this point. They are hitting the ATM, borrowing money from family, hocking the jewelry and taking out a third mortgage on the house at this point.
Perhaps. I think for me, as an agnostic person suspicious of religion, the problem with âmoralâ is that it implies conscious ethics are the basis of good behavior. And yet I think a lot of conscious behavior ultimately collapses into ideology, which then draws too far from the unconscious truths of being. If we take âspiritâ as a wholistic version of personhood, including not only conscious but unconscious elements, then spiritual works for me. And if by lack of spiritual grounding we mean that people are unmoored and self-harming in ways they donât understand or acknowledge, I think its easy to see signs of that in any US town, no matter how prosperous.
Isnât that reserved for Nunes?
No, Iâll stick with âspirituality,â thanks.
I agree about the lack of principles but I donât understand how this helps moderate Râs in swing districts like Elise Stefanik in NY-21 (Northeast corner of NY - Saratoga Springs-Watertown).
She has voted against some of Trumpâs worse ideas, but going along with a Matt Gaetz operation when you are actually on the House Intelligence Committee is mystifying.