Discussion: NYT: Trump's Legal Team Still Largely Unsure What Mueller Knows

[braxtonbraggart]

“After Dowd left the White House, his team spent at least 20 hours interviewing Trump about key events of his time as president.”

I wonder how many times DJT contradicted himself.

[reggid]

If they didn’t collude with Russia, and they didn’t lie, then they’d know exactly what Mueller knows. They fact that they don’t know says it all.

[rhs1963]

With a bullet in every chamber.

[holywah]

Key word-allows. The attorneys and clients don’t have to share everything with everyone else. Sounds a little squirrelly but IANAL.

[holywah]

Have you read Lincoln’s Bible on Twitter. Lays out all of Trump’s mob ties, this Russian ties too. Informative but scary as heck. You can read without joining Twitter.

[ronbyers]

Woodward, in his book Fear, seems to side with Dowd, that there is no there in Mueller’s investigation and that any interview with Trump by Mueller would result in perjury charges because he makes stuff up when he doesn’t remember. Is this a tactic of Woodward to get an interviewers’ cooperation?

There is no doubt in my mind that the Trump campaign colluded with Russians. Too many contacts, too many Russian assets in the campaign. The only open question for me is did Trump personally collude. I am waiting on Mueller to confirm that.

[holywah]

Apparently they don’t have to share everything they know or have disclosed. Sounds like it’s the most efficient way to share discovery documents but not necessarily client information or strategy.

[holywah]

Indeed. Thusly, why are we letting him appoint a Supreme Court justice?

[slimjim33]

@ronbyers

…did Trump personally collude.

Trump will never admit collusion and there might not be enough irrefutable evidence to convince a jury, but it won’t matter. Trump’s exposure is more clear-cut to more easily proven white-collar crimes involving money laundering, tax fraud, and the mundane mail fraud that can be proven with paper trails. There will be enough evidence to vote for impeachment but probably not 2/3 of the Senate but I am Trump will resign for the good the country, never.

[jeffgee1]

Incompetence, chaos and magical thinking. That’s all there is in this presidency.

[jeffgee1]

In the face of changing demographics, the old farts in the GOP want to lock in their old white-guy agenda for another 35 years.

[holywah]

Yeah, so wrong for millions of people.

[kenga]

Eh? Whyever not?

Just don’t bring more than you can afford to lose and conduct yourself scrupulously. I expect it’s a clean game.

[theod]

Here is what Mueller knows:

1. history of money laundering thru real estate sales to foreigners
2. tax evasion based on (1)
3. offshore banking scams run thru Bank of Cyprus & Deutsche Bank
4. money laundering thru casino operations
5. personal inurement of Trump Foundation
6. tax evasion based on (5)
7. receipt of known stolen docs from HRC campaign
8. knowledge of Russian contributions to DJT campaign thru cut-outs like Manafort and Flynn for sanction relief, etc.
9. knowledge of Russian contributions to GOP as laundered thru NRA
10. knowledge of foreign contributions to Inaugural Fund
11. personal inurement from unspent Inaugural Funds
12. obstruction of justice to cover up (1–11)

Thanks to the many witches who have been subpoenaed and found guilty to date. Some flippers; some not. Some historical (Packer & Weisselberg); some hysterical (Cohen, Flynn, Stormy). Some surprises still to come (Javanka, Jr., Eric).

[kenga]

Heh.

[kenga]

And fuckery. Lots of fuckery.

[commanderogg]

Don the Con is fraking terrified. With Manafort doing a reasonably good impression of a Serinus flaviventris it may have finally sunk in to his 5th Grade brain that he is in deep excrement.

This is not one of his cheap grifts that he can buy his way out of if things go sour. Bobby three sticks has the discipline of a Navy SEAL, the patience of JOB and the relentlessness of a Terminator:

REESE SEAN HANNITY: (slow, but intense) Listen. Understand. That Terminator Special Prosecutor is out there. It can’t be reasoned with, it can’t be bargained with…it doesn’t feel pity of remorse or fear…and it absolutely will not stop. Ever. Until you are dead brought to trial.

(Sarah Don the Con slumps in utter resignation.)

[jacksonhts]

And Trump’s criminal defense team has a pathological liar for a client. So they are probably eternally finding out shit that Donald either refrained from telling them, or flat out lied to them about.

[moniker]

John Dowd, who reportedly never investigated Trump’s actual legal exposure and relied on the President’s denials of wrongdoing instead.

He didn’t investigate Trump’s exposure because he can figure out that it’s bad. As an officer of the court he cannot make statements to the court that he knows are false. So for this client the preference is willful ignorance. It’s the only way you can support the denials of wrongdoing.

[eldonlazar]

Poker, yeah. But if you want to keep a small semblance of pride do not challenge him to chess!