Wine Wars: Warren’s Debate Attack Dredged Up Her Own Boozy Fundraiser | Talking Points Memo

After Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) went after South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg for his glittering wine cave fundraiser during the debate, a story of her own boozy fundraiser came to light.


This is a companion discussion topic for the original entry at https://talkingpointsmemo.com/?p=1281316

Oh, come on TPM, giving donors a bottle of wine is hardly a boozy fundraiser.

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I think it’s silly to argue about this stuff. Pete was correct in the debate that we need everybody. If supporters have that kind of coin then great. I don’t blame warren for having that fundraiser either, she just doesn’t belong on this high horse anymore and we should all move on.

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This whole issue is stupid. Get on with a real plan to politically bury Trump, the Trumpets and Trump;pism! I don’t care how it’s (legally) funded - JUST DO IT!

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Warren gave $1000 donors a bottle of good wine.

She complained that Buttigieg’s fund-raiser served $900 bottles of wine.

It’s a self-own on her part—an unforced error.

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Bullshit. Mayor Pete was in the wine cave selling future access to billionaires. This wasn’t about the price of a bottle of wine.

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Rather than slamming each other’s fund raising, how about telling us how they are going to beat Donald Trump. Start with Trump’s lies, abuse of power, torture of asylum seekers, the list is endless. Trump is not POTUS. He is the President of his MAGA hatted followers. Jeesh.

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So what was Warren selling?

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Warren and Sanders both have a high horse problem. For Warren, it’s her professorial “I have a plan for that” meme. For Sanders, it’s his purity pony supporters.

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Anyway, forget the wine cave, here’s the hard hitting scandal that’s really going sink Buttigieg!

The person who’s been editing Buttigieg’s Wikipedia page is probably a former campaign volunteer who went to the same high school as Pete and is apparently a big fan! Horrors!

Seriously, these attempts to manufacture Buttigieg scandals would be funny if they weren’t so pathetic.

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To me, Warren’s plans are her greatest strength. Maybe it’s my own professorial background.

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Focus, Dem candidates, focus.

Tell us how you will actually beat Trump with a feasible, fact-based, economically viable platform, rather than beating on each other.

Thank you.

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So, Warren was in a winery selling future access to millionaires. Is that really that different, aside from optics. The only real difference is that because she was a Senator, rather than a presidential candidate, is that she had access to a poorer set of donors. But do you really think she would have refused the attendance of a billionaire?

I’m a Warren fan, but she really doesn’t have moral authority which she switchtes her position this year and then starts calling out her opponents, especially as she literally funded her early campaign by selling access to herself with millionaires.

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Part of my personal #PledgeBlue is to avoid creating or amplifying sound bites that Repubs will be able to use later against the Dem nominee. E.g., no “rigged”, no “corporatist”.

So although I’m not happy with the number of really high ticket fundraisers Pete is holding, I wish Elizabeth could have made more of highlighting her own pledge rather than wine-caving Pete.

ETA: and no bottle of wine is actually worth $900 except for the aggrandizement value.

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Actually, i think how well they can attack and defend at debates and on the campaign is a crucial skill. Trump did not win with a feasible, fact-based, economically viable platform,he just beat his opponents up and stole the working class white vote. If we end up with another candidate who is great on policy details but can’t win a street fight, then we are screwed.

The fact is, since Nixon Republicans have won not with a feasible, fact-based, economically viable platform, but instead by throwing red meat social issues out to voters. Until Democrats can neutralize that advantage, really crazy Republicans will continue to be viable on the national stage.

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Agreed, but Mayor Pete is all in with the billionaires. And he even tries to argue for billionaires’ money, as if they want nothing in return. 'cause it’s all about beating Trump - with everything to be ‘worked out’ later.

Sen Warren doesn’t play in Mayor Pete’s world but you’re right, she has to be careful.
@phlogiston

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Bullshit so rank I can smell it from here.

Where’s your evidence that he’d sell future access for $2800 a pop?

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Trump is going to hit the election with a billion fucking dollars and here we are trading friendly fire over $900 or $1000 for bleeding wine???

Come back when you’re prepared to get serious.

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The headline boozy fundraiser sounds so wing nut Fox like. As if they were sloshed getting in their cars afterwards and thinking up ways to screw over the masses. As yesterday’s piece in the Washington Post outlined many donors just simply like the candidate and their positions on issues.

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Sleazy and misleading headline, TPM. Sensational, yes, clickbait, yes, but not up to your usual standards. Boozy sounds pretty bad.

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