Will 2020 Bring A Repeat Of The Post-Election Legal Mess of 2000? | Talking Points Memo

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This is a companion discussion topic for the original entry at https://talkingpointsmemo.com/?p=1313510
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Will 2020 Bring A Repeat Of The Post-Election Legal Mess of 2000?

No.

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So Rethugliklans will delegitimize the election if they aren’t able to steal it? Surely, it can’t happen here. Who could imagine?

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If Trump loses by 15%, along with the Republicans losing the Senate, that ought to do it.

Get out the vote.

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Will 2020 Bring A Repeat Of The Post-Election Legal Mess of 2000?

Why not, we already have a pre-election legal mess?

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Has Trump put us through all this just to go quietly back up the escalator?

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Your OneWordAnswer™: Yes.

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We will need U.N. elections monitors, like every troubled democracy does.

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By God, not this time. The nation will not survive another Trump term. We will not endure a Dictatorship and ‘Rome has no Kings’. This will be his last, one way or another.

The only real question is will the US Democracy survive this exposure of its’ fragility to unrestrained corruption and malfeasance, now that it is plain for everyone to see.

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Looking at recent polling, I wonder if the “hive mind” of the 150 million registered voters in the US might know there could be a mess, and might be deciding to make the vote particularly one-sided to prevent ambiguity.

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That’s kinda what I’m thinking. This is going to be such a landslide that they’re not going to be able to pull a Florida, because, even if there are one or two States with questionable results, the rest of the electoral votes will make those pointless.

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His term legally ends at noon on January 20th.

If he contests results, each state has different rules for dealing with recounts. Because the day the electoral college casts its votes is fixed, Trump has roughly six weeks to get the states to see things his way. That’s it.

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But in North Carolina, where Republicans attempted to challenge the 2016 election that threw Gov. Pat McCrory (R) out of office, voting rights advocates see signs that the playbook could be run again if the 2020 results are close.

If you’re gonna fearmonger you probably shouldn’t use examples that illustrate where Republican efforts to upend an election failed.

That’s my thinking as well. We’ve also gotta remember that nobody that actually knows him loves Trump. Republicans in Congress tolerate him because they fear a mean tweet or that not supporting him will cost them an election. When many elected Republicans are packing up their offices, I doubt very many of them will have much interest in listening to Trump whining that the election was rigged against him. In fact, I suspect quite a few will be mad as hell at him knowing their election loss was entirely because he couldn’t shut TF up.

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But could use the Harris/McReady case as an example of how republicans could both fuck with an election and win by having the election nullified because it was tainted…

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I can name at least 8 people I know well who voted for Trump in 2016. Everyone of them is voting for him again this year - guaranteed!

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That’s one congressional election in one red district in one state. It’s like holding up the fact that someone voted twice as proof as to the potential for mass voter fraud.

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You need new friends.

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But had it happened in 2016 and not 2018, those same ballots would have had trump on there, so could have affected the whole State.

That they were able to cheat on a Federal election, even just for a congresscritter, and not have paid a penalty, just had the election re-run to win it again later, that’s a lot more disturbing than non-existent mass voter fraud.

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Absolutely right. They’ll find a new way to fuck with our democracy.

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“It’s gonna go through some things.”

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