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This is a companion discussion topic for the original entry at https://talkingpointsmemo.com/?p=1467709
This article is part of TPM Cafe, TPM’s home for opinion and news analysis. It was originally published at The Conversation.
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I couldn’t agree more. Just because governor and president are “executive” elected positions, by no means make them co-equal in terms of powers or responsibilities.
Just think of Chris Christie, Nikki Haley, Kristi Noem, Kay Ivey, Sarah Huckabee Sanders, Sarah Palin, Brian Kemp or DeSantis as President. Yikes.
And a cat.
Not sure I buy the argument. The article starts by asserting an ‘imperial governor’ like DeSantis doesn’t make a good president but that begs the question of why he doesn’t make a good candidate which is pretty plainly that (a) he is running against the guy who owns his party and (b) is also a humorless dick. Not that being a dick counts against a candidate in that party; quite the contrary, if anything there are too many of them.
Imperious,imperial imbeciles are especially bad…
There is no question that P01135809’s recent indictments have made [It] a stronger candidate for the nomination.
That this is even a thing should underscore how far past the event horizon into decay and collapse we are. This country has merely joined the ranks of other nations that sputter into weakness and can never recover, especially with a populace as bored and lazy as ours. So arguments about “imperial governors” and whether they make for bad presidents is quaint nonsense.
Have a great weekend, everybody!
indubitably
It’s stuff like this that proves DeSantis and Florida Republicans in general don’t believe in God.
God help us if Trump wins the election. Biden is too old to deal with the overwhelming problems confronting “The Divided States of America”. Biden looks old and tired. Climate Change is roaring down on us and we are whistling past the graveyard. The changes that confront us will take a younger progressive active person to implement. This winter and next summer will weigh on the 2024 election. The climate will be brutal. We must defeat the Zombies.
Out of 350 million people, we can only find a crazy criminal traitor and an octogenarian lifelong politician to lead our nation. Our political system is broken.
Former Republican Joe Walsh has thoughts about that.
https://twitter.com/WalshFreedom/status/1697589663374975047
A friend yesterday asked me who the Democratic nominee should be. He’s worried about Biden’s age. I said it doesn’t matter to me who the Democratic nominee is. It really doesn’t. Donald Trump is an existential threat to our democracy. He must be defeated. So I’ll support WHOEVER the Dems nominate. And we ALL should pledge to do that. Because it’s ONLY about defeating Trump. So quit worrying about who the nominee is going to be, I told him.
He didn’t love my answer.
Biden looks old and tired? Really? When? When he is riding his bike?
Then run for something. Anything. Volunteer to serve on a City or County board or commission.
Be part of the solution.
I think it doesn’t matter who either party nominates.
The Republican party is every bit the same threat Trump is.
Any Republican president will do the most awful things. In fact, if a republican has to win '24, Trump is our best bet, his incompetence saved us many times.
I love these Cafe articles.
I do have one quibble:
It is also true that many governors have legislatures with huge majorities of the same party, which often minimizes any opposition. In Florida, for instance, 28 of the 40 senators are Republican, and 85 of the 120 House members are as well. This adds up to a veto-proof majority for DeSantis.
(emphasis mine)
I think no veto-proof majority can ever be for the executive. Was it supposed to say “filibuster-proof” or something like that? I.e. majority so large they can defeat any procedural hurdles that might be raised by the minority party trying to at least slow the flood of “bad” bills being signed into law?
I’m too frightened of that possibility to risk finding out.
Compared to Biden of a few years back, we have to admit age is catching up to him.
That said, I think his physical condition is solid enough, and he’s mentally sharp. If at some point during his second term he’s no longer up to it, Harris will be fine.
To be fair, weren’t a lot of them were bad governors, too? I assume because they are unserious partisan kooks, which makes them unfit for any decision-making role in government. “Yikes” to both Sarahs as governors!
Ron DeSantis is Scott Walker 2.0.
The Mike Pompeo of Scott Walkers…
While Ronda Santis suffers from imperial governor syndrome, he really is just a bad politician and candidate. He beat a weak candidate in 2022, the state Democratic Party is awful, and the heavily gerrymandered servile legislature has ceded all power.
He never had to learn to be a strong candidate — until now.
He will withdraw from the presidential race before January, lose a senate race, and disappear. Just like Scott Walker.