When To Accommodate, and When To Fight? NY Officials Agonize and Prepare for Federal Escalation

Originally published at: When To Accommodate, and When To Fight? NY Officials Agonize and Prepare for Federal Escalation - TPM – Talking Points Memo

Jackie Bray has been thinking about how quickly things could spiral out of control. Bray is the New York state emergency leader whom Gov. Kathy Hochul tasked with averting a Chicago or Los Angeles-style surge of immigration agents and National Guard troops. At the core of the job is a dilemma that the Trump administration…

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Surprised Trump did not move the USS Gerald Ford off shore.

Maybe he is saving it for New Orleans.

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It’s so frustrating that one side needs to painstakingly prepare for all the possibilities (and pretend the Supreme Court isn’t a cheat code for Trump) while the other behaves like an irate toddler left unsupervised with a Jenga tower.

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I am quite certain that if the proper gratuity is offered to TRUMP he will not invade. It’s all about the Net worth to TRUMP.

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You should fight before it becomes necessary. In other words, don’t let a detrimental status quo remain in place. Slavery, for example, was abolished by decree in England and Canada in 1833 (and effectively by 1838), but as the largest contributor to US GDP was hard to get rid of even 30 years later. Maybe if the abolitionists were more unified or maybe if there had been more political will, but it was a system the South rode as far as it could. More recently, and despite solid data from the GRACE satellite project to measure groundwater depletion, political and popular will were missing. China, Iran, Afghanistan and the US host some of the worst-abused aquifers, but politicians, regardless of political system, cannot embrace “degrowth” or “defend the commons” approaches. Tehran has effectively run out of water, with the president suggesting the capital city will have to be moved along with a large chunk of the population. Kabul has so overextracted that potable water is a black market item. There are places in the Central Valley in California where the subsidence exceeds 30 meters, and has a president that blathers about putting “fish before people”, apparently referring to a FoxNews trope from several decades ago that condemns protecting the California delta smelt and its essential wetland ecosystem. Some Chinese cities must deal with a double-whammy of overpumping and contamination..

The fight we need to have now is about energy. Government finances, corporate profitability, worker wage gains were made possible in the last century by cheap abundant oil and a global population of 4 billion. That’s not the current situation. Like the Iranian government, of course, we can just ignore the problem, build out data centers, continue to allow the Trump administration to kill wind and solar projects (even near completed ones), plunge into a full-on crisis and chaos for several decades and hopefully have a secret bunker or island to weather the bad times. As multiple climate summits have demonstrated, however, there are no political systems that aren’t dragging their feet on the energy transition and decarbonization. We have been warned.

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When people demand ignorance there will be no end of politicians that will comply.

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Sounds like a quote from HL Mencken, Upton Sinclair, or Sinclair Lewis. If original to you, congratulations! You have joined some esteemed company!

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So the plan is to have the SS separate the civilians from the Gestapo.

Solid plan. Nothing could go wrong.

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All locations should take the steps that have been proven to work in Chicago and Charlotte. Mass mobilization among the citizens that are against the ICE-holes and lots and lots of video.

This stuff has worked.

Minneapolis has something more in its arsenal that’s going to help a lot. We’re in winter here. ICE is going to be dealing with little protection from the elements (e.g., overnight tonight I’m seeing -10 degrees ambient temp - a whole lot lower if there’s any kind of breeze). The police leaders in both Twin Cities will not cooperate. There will be few if any locations that will allow ICE indoors to get out of the cold. The cold will outlast ICE - I bet they leave within a week.

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The move will net the Trump Organization $115 million.

Swell.

Pay E. Jean Carroll now. Also, reimburse Comey and James.

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“In a room where people unanimously maintain a conspiracy of silence, one word of truth sounds like a pistol shot.” ― Czesław Miłosz

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He needs the Ford for his war with Venezuela.

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“Friends of mine who live in the area called last night to ask me not to go forward with the surge.”

Helluva platform for governing the country.

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and a hammer in hand

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He has “friends”?

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If that were to happen, how long do you think it would take the Shadow Six to tell us “No soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the owner” does not mean what we think it means?

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Purely transactional.

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You’re supposed to carry your green card with you at all times, FWIW. I always did.

I no longer give credit to the British for the abolition of slavery. They did it because they had figured out a more profitable and more exploitative workaround, the Coolie Trade. The indentured workers although supposedly voluntary and paid, were treated even worse than slaves, because they will loose their value at the end of their contract, besides if they died they would be no need to pay them.

The coolie trade along with the opium trade where the things that the Chinese were trying to eradicate and the British responded with war. Talk of a narco-state.

Anyways, the coolie trade is the reason that there are (or were) ethnic Chinese and Indians communities in former British colonies such as Trinidad, Guyana, Uganda, South Africa and Fiji.

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