What Mike Johnson’s Stint Representing A Creationist Museum In Court Reveals About His Politics - TPM – Talking Points Memo

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Fossil fools.

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"Of all bad men, religious bad men are the worst." – C.S. Lewis

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Creationists demonizing those who accept scientific fact is just part of the package: The Christianist worldview cannot and will not tolerate alternative sources of authority particularly if that source disagrees with their own biblical interpretations.

[Creationism] is an attempt to make the struggle of faith a bit easier. It is similar to the claim that God's existence can be philosophically proven. It confuses the realms of faith and science in an attempt to ease the burden of belief. The mature believer says, "The seeming truth of evolution makes Christianity hard to believe in – to square the circle one needs faith." The immature believer says, "The conflict is intolerable, so evolution must be denied." – Theo Hobson

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I guess everyone deserves representation in court - equal justice and all that. It’s no worse than the accusations made against Kamala for representing criminals in trials.

Lawyering is also a good bit about the money. If someone’s willing to pay, most lawyers will take the case no matter how heinous.

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These people need help. This is not rational.

he does not believe “[that the climate is changing because we drive SUVs]

(https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/26/climate/mike-johnson-climate-policies.html).”

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Religion that inspires its followers to kill is seriously messed up. Johnson is fully on board with it.

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Ham doesn’t look that old. So he’s just a fool. A fool who has learned how to get some people to part ways with their money.

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“Suffer the velociraptors to come to me, for theirs is the first bite of dinner.”

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As this article states, if 6,000-year old creation is true, then we’d have to junk not only evolutionary biology and paleontology, but literally all science down to basic physics. But of course that’s what the Bible-thumpers want: to return us to the Middle Ages:

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Where do these weirdos come from? Oh wait, we know. The right wing insane theocratic bubble.

To sane people they all look and sound like addled freaks.

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Indeed. ChristianTaliban, killing infidels in name of JC.

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If it wasn’t so serious, this would be fall-on-the-floor-laughing. However, it is one more example of the danger that comes from not calling out born again assholes when they propagate some of these ridiculous ideas. These people are dangerous, and should be publicly confronted whenever they
surface!

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God is an asterisk for personal desires.

Religion is an end run around accepted governance.

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We need to confront these fools on moral grounds. They are, in every serious sense of the word, evil. And we need to confront them on theological grounds. They are soldiers of Satan. Take them at their word that they serve a god. Then explore, in a thorough way, the evidences for which god that is. Judge the tree by its fruit, and the god by his (surely not “hers” in this case) soldiers. These are not Christians. They are Satanists, wolves dressed as sheep.

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ICAM, however as they are religious views we cannot debunk. I was upset when I read Johnson won the case based on “discrimination vs religion” forcing the state to make their tourism site tax-exempt. Of course the state had denied them due to “extensive faith statement” that must be signed to work there on the basis of separation of state and religion.

I don’t get how that has been flipped into discrimination vs freedom from state regulation. I do not want any public taxes used to support religious institutions…

I have no issue with individual religious choices but it’s wrong to use tax dollars to promote those beliefs.

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It would be one thing if they were all Elmer Gantrys plying their trade and fleecing the gullible in the name of religion. I have no problem believing that is true of the pulpit pimps like Joel Osteen and other high profile televangelists. But to me, it’s more troubling to accept that there are people who actually believe what they are selling and that there are cases like Speaker Johnson where those people are in positions of power.

Inbreeding.

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It’s all about survival of the fittest, and you evolve from primordial slime,” and so “why is that life of any sacred value?”

Is this really any worse than thinking we arose from dust? What if I tell them God breathed the Breath of Life onto that primordial slime?

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I’m not going to try tracing the evolution of the flip, but it came to fruition in Hobby Lobby and has been rapidly tumbling downhill since then. A majority on the Supreme Court, the final arbiter on the original intent and true meaning of the text of the Constitution, decreed that “free exercise” is not a personal right limited to how a person conducts themselves. It now allows that person to impose their sincerely held religious beliefs on every member of the general public who is within their sphere of influence. It is having the same pernicious effect as Scalia’s decree that the right to bear arms is an individual right

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