White House coronavirus task force member Dr. Anthony Fauci and Dr. Moncef Slaoui, chief adviser of Operation Warp Speed, offered conflicting takes on Sunday regarding herd immunity as a result of COVID-19 vaccines.
This âherd immunityâ BS will stop on January 20th.
Gosh! Who to believe? Golly, thinking, thinkingâŚthis is a hard one.
A. Fauci is qualifying, he is not disagreeing.
B. In the meantime, we need more economic support â lots more and the right kind â which means we also need more pressure against the austerity scolds.
ETA: OT and feel free to skip but this is bugging the hell out of me.
It isnât just the hypocrisy, itâs the apostasy: People like the Falwells et al are Mammonites â believing that material good fortune is a manifestation of Godâs love â a sign of his favor and their personal virtue; the obvious corollary being the low status and unworthiness of those not so favored. The entire prosperity gospel â lock, stock, and lucre â is a damnable Christianist heresy.
And it does not stop with Christianists. The argument that the unfortunate should receive support as well as government welfare generally is objectionable to Mammonites writ larger too: money is Godâs or Fortuneâs favor and the notion that it is a commodity with value determined only by exchange, that you can actually just give the stuff away or gain it through sheer luck rather than âearningâ (AKA deserving) it is anathema; it challenges their view of themselves as someone deserving their place on top of the heap (the ego boost you get when passing the poor slobs lower down is just a perk).
At its heart arguments for economic austerity, particularly at this point in time, have little or nothing to do with economics.
That also means (getting back to topic) that the vaccine needs to be âfreeâ â fully subsidized by the government with the goal of at least 70% population coverage (thatâs the point you can actually start seriously talking about herd immunity).
But the herd mentality will always be with us. 
The problem seems to be that they are innumerate. Or maybe just superior sycophants?
âAt its heart arguments for economic austerity, particularly at this point in time, have little or nothing to do with economics.â
A name given to and act causing pain to people." austerity".
Kind of tangential, but I like Dr. Fauciâs penguin-themed face mask there. Could he be an open-source software supporter, I wonderâŚ?
This isnât exactly a disagreement. Theyâre not sure how many people will get vaccinated, and your thought about that puts your conclusion in a different place. Thatâs about it. The article would seem to want to put them at loggerheads but I donât think they are.
You hit it on the nail. Also keep in mind that we have no clue what the actual plan is to get the vaccine out.
Blame it on the states if it doesnât work.
But more importantly,
âTeeth create a narrowing effect in the jet that makes it stronger and more turbulent,â Kinzel says. âThey actually appear to drive transmission. So, if you see someone without teeth, you can actually expect a weaker jet from the sneeze from them.â
Well, that gives me something to chew on.
A woman I worked with referred to it as âHerd community.â
She had herd mentality.
One way to boost the uptake in the vaccine is for major private venues â like sports stadiums â to require evidence of vaccinations before theyâre allowed to attend events and functions there.
âIf you donât want to be vaccinated, thatâs your choice, but you donât get to be a superspreader in our house.â
It would seem these vaccines are as ânovelâ as is Co-Vid 19 itself. To my knowledge,there is no information available on long-term effects of attaching foreign material to RNA and/or DNA. While I am pro-vaccination in every other case, this one gives cause for concern.
I wonder how strong the turbulence would be from âŚ
ralph
Sometime you think you have heard it all,then you find you havenât heard anything.
âwithout teeth,â
That could open up a whole new discussion about a lot of different things.
âHerd immunityâ means that a sufficient proportion of the population are resistant to the virus, such that in the epidimiological sense, when the virus does flare up, it canât find enough human hosts to keep spreading. But life (and the deaths) for those experiencing the flareup will continue to be hell. A 95% effective vaccine still means that, when exposed, youâve got a one in twenty chance of being infected. Now multiply that âone in twentyâ by the daily or weekly count of high risk behaviors you are currently avoiding, and your odds of infection move back to or worse than without a vaccine. We have to get vaccinated, then continue virus safety practices for as many months as it takes for the virus to die down to near nothing, like ebola.
Did you know the toothbrush was invented in the south?
If it were invented north of the Mason Dixie line itâd have been called a teethbrush.
Is this vaccine going to be given free to the public, who likely helped fund its research, or will we have to pay for it?
I hear itâll be free.