WH Says It’s Not Sweating Over Manchin Promise To Preserve The Filibuster | Talking Points Memo

Even assuming that much, I wonder about the basis for this:

Do you even need to ask?

https://www.wvgazettemail.com/news/legislative_session/wv-senate-passes-bill-to-rein-in-voting-options/article_b87e33f2-9e6d-5c40-9966-95d62852021a.html

Notable odious changes:

  • Ending early (in-person) voting the weekend before election day
  • Ability to purge “idle” voters from the registration rolls who haven’t voted in the past two years (meaning they would have to re-register every time if they only vote during Presidential years)
  • Repealing an automatic “motor-voter” registration law (i.e. you get automatically registered to vote when you get a WV driver’s license).
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I think it’s much more plausible than the idea that Senators always mean what they say, never bend the truth, and never change their minds later.

The real life evidence is that he has already voted for wildly progressive ideas in the ARA if he is given the correct amount of covering fire.

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If Manchin thinks he can work with Republicans then he needs to prove it, he needs to bring enough Republicans to sign on to Democratic legislation to pass the voting right bill.

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He already knows he will never get 10 GOP votes for anything. Manchin and the WH is simply doing the werk to show the Press and WV voters that there is no compromise to be had. They need time to prove it.

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:100:

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Well, that’s wildly implausible, I agree; and I hope no one thinks it.

But I still have questions about this:

It’s about teaching his voters back in WV that the GOP wont meet him in the middle.

For example, what criticism of Republicans has he offered out loud that might be consistent with this notion?

I’ve seen his criticism of Democrats that appears consistent with it.

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Yep. I’m furious with him because he’s a douchebag and every article I read about him is like I’m a cat being pet backwards, BUT we should maybe take a little comfort from Biden trying to keep things calm and confident for now.

This all also positions Manchin as the bellwether, the canary in the coalmine, the red flag that hasn’t been raised yet…however you want to put it. If/when the GQP’s absolutist obstruction and complete fucking nonsense has been fully established, Manchin finally saying something like “we tried very hard to bring them to the table…they’ve been given every opportunity to negotiate in good faith but they don’t…they’ve done nothing but prevent us from getting anything done, so they’ve been given me no choice” could spell their doom.

ROPE.

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This is the one that drives me crazy. Kobach and other Republicans scream and carry on about the voter rolls not being up to date. I don’t think I ever read, or heard a reporter ask the question, “how long is it acceptable for a dead person to be on the voter roll?”
Now from personal experience when my mother passed away in June of 2019 I’d check the website on the MO SoS website to see how long her name was still listed. I wasn’t obsessive about checking, but I’d check every so often. It was removed in about 6 weeks.
Now like you said there are people who only vote every 4 years, this is just bullshit to remove them if they don’t vote in an election every 2 years.
Now in some states that may not be such a problem if the voter does vote for state wide offices, and those elections happen 2 years after a general, but if your state wide office holder election is run with the general then it’s stupid.

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Yep, go over him, around him, through him…whatever. Leave him hanging out on the limb that he has crawled out on. Eventually he may get the message that there is a new sheriff and a whole new posse in town.

I really don’t understand why some of the major reforms in the bill can’t be passed through reconciliation. There are key measures in it that require federal funding to help states with implementation, and I’m sure that they could find a way to make other portions a budgetary issue.

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Me neither. If necessary put some funding in the damn bill. Whatever it takes.

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His state voted for Trump 70-30 or some insane thing. He can’t slam the GOP, he needs to demonstrate his distance from the WH at every opportunity. It costs us nothing and seems like the WH is ok with it also.

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I think it’s something like this:

Manchin: “I need the cover. You’ve gotta let me establish the cover. I can’t just charge in without appearing to have made every last effort, spent every last drop of my power, to have tried to make things bipartisan and work with the GQP, etc…[insert mewling and whining here].”

Biden: “Fine. I agree, BUT there’s a fucking limit, champ. You are going to face a choice, and I’m willing to do everything I can to help you make that choice easier, less painful, less damaging for you to make…but eventually, you’re gonna make it, one way or the other and whatever the consequences may be, because what I’m NOT willing to do is make that choice go away. Go play your game…game clock’s ticking.”

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This is as much about framing the media’s coverage of this as anything. Let them get to the day where the Media declares the GOP unmovable and unwilling. There is time to let this framing mature, lets see if they can pull it off.

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That I agree with. What I can’t quite grasp is any basis for this:

How is this feat of instruction progressing?

You may not know. I sure don’t.

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From your keyboard to the screens of the gods.

I hope so desperately that that’s what is going on.

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This I agree with. It’s an eternal problem.

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That’s exactly how I see this playing out. That’s basically how it played out when Democrats changed the rules for confirming federal judges. They did the slow rollout and then they kept trying to confirm judges and McConnell shot each of them down. Then Democrats threw up their hands and said, “Y’all, we really tried, you saw how they behaved, and now we have no choice but to change the rules.”

Right?! For instance, the portion that concerns ending gerrymandering and establishing independent commissions to draw legislative maps. That isn’t free, states will have to pay for that commission, so include federal support.

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Hoping desperately is not a thing!