WH Official Who Sat In On Ukraine Meetings To Depart NSC | Talking Points Memo

A National Security Council official who attended Ukraine-related meetings that are now being probed by the House in an impeachment inquiry will leave the White House this Friday, Politico reported.


This is a companion discussion topic for the original entry at https://talkingpointsmemo.com/?p=1260930
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Subpoena Bolton ASAP!

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Another person is preparing to testify…

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He didn’t really sit in. He just brought in covfefe and donuts.

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There are no plans to replace Matthews, according to the report, which noted that Robert O’Brien, the national security advisor who succeeded John Bolton, has sought to shrink the size of the NSC.

Well, of course. It’s easier to enforce omerta with fewer conspirators.

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No one has ever heard of him.

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Matthews did the math - things did not add up, he decided to subtract himself from the equation before before his troubles multiplied. Divided, they fall.

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When the ship of state finally sinks there won’t be a soul left on board.

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I heard a NYT reporter on “Fresh Air” just now say that Bolton apparently wants to testify; if that’s the case, there’s nothing preventing him from doing it, even if the president does not want him to.

The House has not got the time to fight all this stuff through the courts. The Trumpists are just trying to run out the clock. Schiff’s committee evidently feels it’s got what it needs to prosecute the case. So they’re moving forward. And I gather they are making the assumption that if these guys had anything to say that would help Trump’s case, they would be eager to testify. That they are not suggests they have no defense to make for him.

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Just Donald Trump, wailing and blubbering while clinging to the flag.

As you say, not a soul on board.

apparently, Schiff has decided not to subpoena Bolton – or anyone, for that matter.

He claims that its because he doesn’t want impeachment held up by the courts. Of course, that is complete bullshit. Impeachment is not dependent on the resolution of all pending, possibly relevant, court cases.

And what those court cases could do, in fact, is make it impossible for Trump to call those people as witnesses during a Senate trial, at least without them first being deposed by the House.

Does anyone here think that Mulvaney, Pompeo, Cippolone, or any other White House official would not lie through their teeth (like Sondland did) to protect Trump? And by not subpoenaing them, and taking them to court if they don’t comply, Schiff is giving them carte blanche to lie at an impeachment trial.

The only way to prevent this is by taking them to court – Roberts might allow them to testify anyway, but would likely allow the House ‘managers’ to depose them first given the pendancy of their claim on the testimony, and in order to be able to cross-examine them effectively.

But because the rules of the Senate do not allow for a discovery period, Roberts would allow them to testify after declining to show up voluntarily for the House proceedings.

I see that you are an exponent of sound reasoning.

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No, that’s @castor_troy. I am just an accidental schoolboy by comparison. :joy:

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Well, everybody has their limits…

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Don’t be irrational.

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@castor_troy @playitagainrowlf

I majored in physics and you guys are causing me flashbacks.

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I am so sorry, didn’t mean to trig-ger you.

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:man_facepalming:You compound these things to no end.

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What can I say, I’m in my prime. Not on the downhill slope like you.

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