WH: Biden ‘Disappointed’ By Senate Official’s Roadblock To $15 Minimum Wage Increase

I am sure work is being done on the work-arounds that I mentioned…and I also believe that there is significance in the fact that Nancy still included the $15.00 in the House Bill which is going to the Senate.

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The same way Republicans run in banning abortion, they have controlled the presidency and both branches of Congress recently, plus having a sympathetic judiciary, and they still haven’t banned abortion. However they keep campaigning on it and many people, specially evangelicals, give abortion as the main reason they vote GOP.

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Every House Democrat is up for re-election next year?

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I can understand Manchin, if people start earning 15 dlls an hour, they will start drinking brand whiskey, ruining the WV moonshine industry.

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It will also put more money into the economy. Low income workers spend everything they make just to survive and giving them a raise will allow them to raise their standard of living a little bit at least. Making the rich richer accomplishes nothing, they already have everything they need or want.

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I do know two things: Even Alex Wagner said we cannot make the Perfect the Enemy of the Good. And we may not have to get into that with a Work-Around.

Both scenarios demand that we pass this Bill

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I’m not the one who’s 'throwing in the towel’ here. I’ve seen this game for 40 some years and the pattern remains the same.

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They are able to see into the future.

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Many have!

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It’s just one piece of a much larger bill. Hardly defeat.

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The defeat is clearly visible when you consider the difficulty of passing the wage-increase requirement in some other way than via reconciliation.

Ideas?

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Let me put it this way—I disagree.

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Not in Krugman’s eyes. He raves** about the Bill.

** the way Krugman raves :face_with_monocle:

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A missile strike would easily fix that problem.

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It’s the same thing we run into in other things. In such a massive economy, the buying power of any given amount of money is highly variable depending on where one lives. Easy for Manchin to be against the $15, because WV is dead last in median income, so it would touch a lot more of his people and have a much greater impact. While in D.C. or NYC that same 15 is an absolute joke.

Maybe stop trying one-size-fits-all numbers for that, stimulus checks, and other benefits.

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Can you elaborate? Thanks.

actually the very rich tend to hoard money and giving them more simply takes it out of the economy, according to my way of looking at economics.

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Highest effective federal minimum wage ever was in the late 1960s, when it topped out at the equivalent of about $12 current, so even $15 would be a significant new high. I’d be fine with $20 too.

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You and I are different- I want results, not wedge issues and political gamesmanship.

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Small businesses which are themselves barely getting to that level would see a greater portion of revenue hit in poor rural areas where there isn’t much money being made to make up for it.

The coffee shop in small-town America selling a cup for a buck has much less room to play than the same one in the city selling it for $5.

Can be good arguments that the minimum wage should be indexed to other economic indicators for a given location so that it’s providing the same base level of support to the same people in equivalent positions.

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