Wesley Clark.
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There’s that uniform again.
Yes, but in my opinion he was not the usual military shmoe. He had experience as Supreme Military Commander in Europe and was as familiar as Biden with foreign leaders. Like it or not, the public is going to look for (perceived) strength on national defense.
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I don’t see a 2 woman ticket. If it’s Warren she’ll likely pick Castro. The only woman I can imagine her picking as VP is Harris. If it’s Sanders, he might well pick Warren or Klobuchar. But the chances of a woman being on the ticket is very high.
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Whoever’s the candidate, their campaign has to be about Trump’s corruption, incompetence, autocracy and character, the deficit, tax cuts for the rich, health care, infrastructure and climate change.
Trump loses on every one of these issues. He loses on everything but especially these, and they’re all high on most voters’ lists. The worst of these Dems is way better than him on all.
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Bernie would be smart to choose a POC, also.
That’s offensive as hell. Take that Trumpian Indian shit and shove it.
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She needs Sanders voters.
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I don’t see a 2 woman ticket.
Me either. Someone suggested it upthread and I shot the idea down.
I backed Clark for President in 2004. What could have been…
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He was my choice, too.
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i watched the first hour…then simply got tired of listening to Warren rant about Bloomberg’s money, this is the USA… there is no shame in earning money…and her harping about the NDA’s at Bloomberg’s business was very off-putting…she has no idea why these people signed NDA’s…maybe she should ask them before she holds them hostage to her needs. a lot of the criticism of BLOOMBERG is beginning to sound like petty jealousy…we are all capitalist…even BERNIE sold his books for money,he did not give them away…
Temper the excitement … Bloomberg ain’t dead yet … and often as these things go, if somebody can crawl away from a gang-up baseball-bat beat-down & get back up - they can recover …
… and if they stay on their feet in the second round - they earn points for resiliency.
also - let’s assume that Bloomberg is not curled up in a corner in the fetal position sobbing and scribbling out his withdrawal announcement … more likely he is revising & refining his next moves.
The next encounter should be interesting - Bloomberg could get away with visiting brutal retribution on some of his competitors and it would generally be dismissed as “payback” for the gang-up - or Bloomberg will be exposed as just not being able to measure up on the big stage.
Pete pointed out that the two most divisive candidates on stage (Bloomberg & Sanders) aren’t even Democrats.
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I watched both hours closely. She didn’t rant about his money. Warren isn’t a socialist. She just wants capitalism to work for everybody. That was Sanders. She argued that rich people like Bloomberg have an out sized influence over policy. I am sure everybody agrees with that. She also wants to increase taxes on the wealthy. Even Bloomberg agreed with that. Just how the increase would be implemented differed.
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Well, the who is and who isn’t a genuine Democrat gets a bit untidy
Bloomberg was a “lifelong member of the Democratic Party” until 2001 - when he registered as a Republican to run for Mayor of New York City
He endorsed Obama in 2012 and Clinton in 2016 …
He gave speech at the 2016 Democratic National Convention & called Hillary Clinton “the right choice”
He officially re-registered as a Democrat - October 10, 2018.
While Bloomberg’s time away from the party is fair game for criticism, when somebody steps up and signs their name to formally become a member of the Democratic Party, it is kind of crass to categorically dismiss their decision / action and just proclaim their pledge as “invalid” and illegitimate. Personally, I found it contemptible when ass-hole nutter Republicans unilaterally proclaimed that Obama was not a Christian - because they deemed themselves to be anointed to judge the validity of his personal faith commitment.
By any objective formalized measure, Bloomberg is officially a registered Democrat - he may be decidedly different in many ways - he may be philosophically different from some of the other candidates - but he has put his name on the line - has gone on record - and deserves an accurate recognition of the facts -
Now, Senator Sanders … humm … he makes it clear - he is adamant that he is NOT a registered Democrat - and will not become one. In an awful lot of ways he walks like one, talks like one, and votes like one … but as of now he remains steadfast in his position that he will not sign his name to become one.
Does it truly matter? certainly it is not mandatory - but some will have reservations … and factually - objectively - it is true Sanders is not a “registered Democrat”
This argument is one that should be handled with a bit of respect - it could easily become a strident ideological purity pissing contest - and alienate more people than it persuades
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That does nothing for her as far as winning the election, however.
You are correct, that she probably can’t pull many voters away from him; his floor and ceiling are pretty hard. But attacking other candidates, who have much softer support, turns those supporters off on her. And helps Sanders, who is currently the front runner, and definitely the front runner on the “progressive” lane.
Its a long term losing strategy, but…if she has made some sort of deal with Sanders to give him her delegates at the convention, then it makes sense.
I understand her taking the gloves off…given her current situation, its the best move. But excluding Sanders from her attacks definitely gives a great deal of credence to the notion that she has a deal with Sanders, and is now acting as his attack dog.
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I think she’s also trying to get back women and college educated voters from Pete and Klobuchar. Hence the defense of Klobuchar. Some voters won’t be turned off by their attacking each other. Klobuchar went after Pete last time, but their votes both soared.
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lol. we call him’Leap Year Bernie…he becomes a Democrat every four years…i don’t get why he doesn’t run under his own flag…‘SOCIALIST’…is he ashamed of being a Socialist.
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