Originally published at: Vance Endorsed Slashing Civil Liberties Protections During Minneapolis Visit
If you read mainstream coverage of Vice President JD Vance’s trip to Minneapolis this week, you’d be forgiven for thinking that he went there as an eyelinered MAGA Mahatma Gandhi, asking the city a simple question: How about we just give peace a chance? CBS News, a network whose bosses have made elaborate contortions to…
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“That’s our best faith attempt to understand the law.” JD Vance speaking, as usual, in bad faith.
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Cancelling civil liberties is one sure way to reduce the temperature and give peace a chance.
Has this guy ever listened to himself? Has anyone else that has more than a single amoeba brain cell?
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J.D. Vance mimics the grotesque self-righteousness of Donald J. Trump. Neither can tolerate dissent or an opposing opinion, the symptoms of fascists.
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And Vance is entirely unlikeable, which gives me a whole lot of hope.
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As I’ve been saying, Vance will be worse.
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He is just completely lying his ass off.
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and yet they elect Cruz year after year - nobody liked the president until he became the front runner in 2016 - but nobody likes that guy - this will be the same - greedy oligarchs will get their way and Vance will become the CryptoPresident or some such assinine label
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In the ICE office supplies room there are boxes of pre-signed warrants in pads of 100, all labeled “help yourself”.
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How is it ICE and CBP thugs are allowed to display POLICE on their clothing.
They do not have police authorities. Aren’t they impersonating real police officers?
If you or I did this, we would be arrested for impersonating a police office.
Same thing applies to their administrative warrants, they don’t allow them to enter one’s home.
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These legal niceties are, frankly, not terribly interesting or important to most Americans, unless they themselves are affected. The arguments are too wonky. The Democrats will not make headway until somebody helps them to put it into plan, non-lawschoolese that strikes an emotional chord.
Until this happens, there will be less outrage and resistance than the maladministration’s actions call for.
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Dear hubby just saw the meme about the fourth amendment violation of knocking down doors being answered with second amendments
He agreed.
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Fourth Amendment
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
14th Amendment
Section 1
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
Emphasis mine. These aren’t “legal niceties.” These are important rights that all humans have in America, and all humans should exercise them. Never consent to a search, always demand a warrant, require it have your address and be signed by a judge (who is the only one that a Oath or affirmation can be made to). If someone is trying to enter your house without a warrant, the second and third amendments might also be relevant (but in most states it is not a good idea to shoot people, so talk to a lawyer about that).
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Warrants not signed by a judge are an oxymoron and an abuse of language by the police. Judges not in the Judicial branch are similarly an abuse of language.
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False. Watch any one of the right-wing militia types youtube channels, and this is about all they talk about. The fourth amendment is not a legal “nicety” to people in all parts of our political spectrum.
Everybody understands the problem here. Everyone.
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Yes, but he won’t get away with nearly as much. I just hope that he becomes president before the end of the year so when he runs in 2028 he will have the baggage of being a lame duck.
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Yes, from the regime that wants to pursue bills of attainder.
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I sure hope you’re right. But since he’s under the thumb of the tech bros and has proven himself willing to lie glibly and often, and will be surrounded by the same bunch of 6th-rate half wits, I am not sanguine about our chances.
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You can always find someone willing to lie, cheat, or steal. You can always find someone willing to ignore their beliefs if it means they get to hurt someone they don’t like. However, even the MAGA kid in my daughter’s history class ranted about the fourth amendment and ICE not breaking down doors. He was fine with everything else, but that was a bit too far for him.
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I was referring to the nice distinctions in who could issue what kind of warrant, and which warrants would be legal versus which appear to be made up things that Jaydie came up with.
Not the existence and importance of the 4th.
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I guess I get what you are saying, I think. I would agree that a fool can be fooled.
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