The Supreme Court will hear oral arguments in two vaccine mandate cases Friday, the culmination of an extremely expedited and unusual process to get the mandates before the high court.
Seems funny that agencies with words like “health” and “safety” and “human” in their names even have to be dragged down this path.
Seemingly the 5 should be on board with the state choosing what medical procedures you get, amirite?
“Supreme Court watchers have tracked a growing skepticism among the conservative justices towards
agencyDemocratic President authority.”
Fixed.
“It could signal a willingness to dramatically curb federal agency power,” Gostin said.
Only for Democratic Administrations.
S/, I know but if you think of it the SC may want to throw this back to the states for states rights. Let the Governors and state legislators decide to kill their own constituents.
Then what else could states try and do away? Speed limits, national parks, and I wonder if states want to rid themselves the NG and go state guards like DeSantis wants in FL?
One wonders if the SCOTUS will reflect on Bill Barr’s theory of the broad power of the Presidency, expansive unitary executive authority, and the Imperial Presidency. Or, do limits only apply to Democratic Presidents?
On a side note, journalists confirmed that all Justices have gotten the booster, so they aren’t in complete denial of science.
There is no recourse but to give greater weight to reality than to strict 18th century Constitutional meanings. If the Supreme Court dares to hide its collective head in the sand, and disregard what is happening in the real world, they will have defined themselves as unfit to interpret the Constitution through the lens of life-or-death issues to Americans.
There comes a point where orthodoxy and philosophy must give way to reality.
These cases are actually quite interesting once you go beyond the veneer of the Covid bit about them.
What’s really at stake here is how much power the Executive Branch can unilaterally wield in mandating things that didn’t originate in law via the Legislative branch.
This goes way beyond Covid, and the ramifications would extend into a lot of other areas beyond one simple vaccine.
I doubt many of us would like if president Trump in 2025 mandates that vehicle manufacturers stop production of electric vehicles and any green energy products.
So go ahead, you stupid six Supreme fucks. Rule against the mandates, because COVID. DON’T. GIVE. A. FUCK.
Jeez, these stupid mofos and the rest of the RW airheads think this is political or we’re dealing with some kind of terrorist organization that can have its ass kicked by BIG BAD AMERICA, like it’s Al-Qaeda or something. But the virus doesn’t care about whether you’re right- or left-wing. No Susan Collins-concerns about the health of the economy. Not a second thought about whether people want to see a movie at the show or get a latte at Starbuck’s or a hamburger at Wendy’s or attend a football game or walk to the local bar for a beer. It will spread rampantly without safeguards like mandates, masking requirements, and testing. And the more it spreads, more of the country gets shut down because too many people are so sick they can’t work and take care of their kids and spend money on all those businesses that the RW Supremes think are having their FREEDOMS! trampled upon, which means the businesses are going to shut down or lose vast amounts of money. And, of course, the entire healthcare system, which can barely handle what’s going on now because of these unvaccinated, untested, ignorant “freedom fighters”, will be forced to ration care even more and, in some cases, shut down completely.
So go haead, you idiots. Let the virus run rampant. I only hope that it ravages Gorsuch,
Barrett, Alito, and the rest of the Supreme Biden-haters while Biden is still able to choose their replacements.
When those words are in the process of being banned in the conservative lexicon… not really.
It would be nice if people could see PUBLIC HEALTH as non political cuz the virus does not care what anybody’s politics are. Vaccines and masks are the way to keep illness and death away. It is that simple. Unless one has a complicating health reason. I, for one, would like to see a second booster shot. I would be happy to get poked a 4th time.
I said before, if they rule against the mandates, and things get worse (which they will, barring that asteroid changing course and crashing into Earth), Biden should just hold a presser and say, “Hey, we tried our damnedest, but if you want to complain, try screaming at Neil Gorsuch and his pals at the Supreme Court.”
Well, you see, the Constitution doesn’t mention Covid, so it doesn’t truly exist.
Damn. Am I going to have to write another verse to “(Welcome the the) Death Cult” so I have a chorus of “Welcome to the Death Court”?
Which would be incorrect. It would be the fault of Congress, who failed to pass a simple piece of legislation authorizing the president to mandate this or any other vaccine.
That’s the heart of the problem here. Executive Branch agencies are not supposed to be doing things that Congress didn’t authorize them and fund them to do.
For a great example, DoD can’t unilaterally decide to use all its money to buy F-35s.
Presidents for the last few decades have been really stretching boundaries by using executive action and without underlying legislative action to support it.
I wouldn’t be at all surprised to see these mandates tossed, and it’s entirely the fault of a do-nothing Congress.
And the 10 Repub Senators who would vote for a bill that would support any piece of Biden’s agenda (and protect Americans) are?
Not saying they would. But we have a Constitution and laws and the structure we have, would’ve thought people might have learned some lessons during the last administration that an unfettered and unaccountable Executive Branch isn’t necessarily a good thing.
Isn’t the problem these days that generally Congress mandates DoD buy things it doesn’t want?