Ukrainian Prosecutor Says First Invite From Giuliani Came Earlier Than Previously Known | Talking Points Memo

The former top prosecutor in Ukraine who originally claimed to have dirt on Joe Biden said in a Tuesday radio interview in Kyiv that discussions with Rudy Giuliani began far earlier than previously known.


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So Rudy Colludy is the linchpin of all things conspiracy?
So how early, and how often did Rudy talk with Paulie?

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“Ex-prosecutor general of Ukraine Viktor Lutsenko said that Giuliani first invited him to New York City to discuss ‘Ukrainian interference in the 2016 elections’ and the Bidens in October 2017.”

Why do I just know that, before this is over, we’re gonna discover “Don & Rudy’s Excellent Ukrainian Adventure” began in…oh, say…2014?

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We’re going to need a bigger white board if this is true.

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Nothing surprising about it. There are so many criminal links between Ukraine and russia that it would be surprising not to see at least a one-degree-to-kevin-bacon link in there.

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Rudy hasn’t a clue about how serious the trouble he’s in has become.

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Barr was working with Giuliani—in his current rambling drunken nutjob form—on Trump projects before he was AG?

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The former top prosecutor in Ukraine who originally claimed to have dirt on Joe Biden said in a Tuesday radio interview in Kyiv that discussions with Rudy Giuliani began far earlier than previously known.

Um, than previously known by whom? Someone knew it.

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It sure appears that way, dunnit?

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FLAP!

The sound of Rudy’s other clown shoe dropping.

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gee it appears that the Ukranians are feverishly swimming away from the Titanic
… seems that they understand how it works when such an enormous thing plunges to the bottom
it creates a huge giant sucking force and pulls everything in range to the bottom with it …

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Always pays to remember that this story may be entirely false.

Remember, Cohen’s father-in-law is a Ukrainian mobster.

Totally plays into their turf to get the old prosecutor to play ball and make up dirt that undermines trump as well…

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probably had staff multi-tasking … working on this crap …and going on expeditions to search for Obama’s documents

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… seems he is totally oblivious to the fact that in these circles, it is very easy to one day wake up dead!

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“At the end of 2017, Trump’s lawyer Giuliani started, through one of my subordinates, who his people knew in passing, to pass over invitations to meet in the states,” Lutsenko said,

Probably not important because it is probably due to translation from one language to another, but CNN had it this way:

“In the end of 2018 — I’m sorry, 2017 — Giuliani offered a meeting in the US via one of my subordinates with whom his people had business, I agreed because of my national interests," Lutsenko said.

If they knew each other through business, what business was it?

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The timeline presents an interesting overlap of legal services rendered by Michael Cohen and those rendered by Rudy Giuliani. I suspect there are more electronic communications that need uncovering.

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I guess that might have been even more important to his nomination than that memo he wrote about how the president* could not obstruct justice by doing something he had the inherent power to do.

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The timing suggests that Ghouli was trying to fill Paulie’s shoes…

And never forget that Pence was Paulie’s guy…

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Trump started cheating in the 2020 election before anybody announced their candidacy.

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Before the audition even makes that very act, questionable already in its easy path to success, into just another criminal pretense. What are the odds Barr ever comes back from Italy? Asking for a friend.

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