TX Shooter Dodged Background Checks By Buying Gun At Private Sale

The suspected gunman responsible for the deadly shootings in the Texas cities of Midland and Odessa on Saturday evaded background checks by purchasing his weapon at a private sale.


This is a companion discussion topic for the original entry at https://talkingpointsmemo.com/?p=1246237

Was this the first, second, or third #GregAbbottMassacre?

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Well Gov. Abbott, Lt. Gov. Patrick, and Speaker Bonnen hows all that access to mental health you touted as a win for Texas and Texans?

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See…background checks don’t work! /s

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Sutherland Springs church shooting 2017, 26 victims dead
El Paso 2019, 22 victims dead
Odessa and Midland 2019 7(?) victims dead

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As I understand it, in Washington State, private sellers have to do background checks…I am wondering if that is true for the private seller who sold to the TX shooter. If so, hold his ass liable for damages.

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In Texas they don’t.

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Boycott Texas until they manage to grow a pair and stand up to gun manufacturers and their corrupt lobbyists. Obviously won’t be happening while the current crop of bought-and-paid-for politicians are thrown out.

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Way, way off topic. But if you’re nightmares weren’t bad enough…just read this. We are all farmers now.

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suspected shooter Seth Aaron Ator had previously failed a background check due to a mental health issue. However, he managed to bypass the process this time by buying his AR-style rifle from a private seller

The ice cream truck in my neighborhood had a sign that read, “If mom says no, ask grandma!”

That private seller’s name should be publicized. Shame him. Perhaps there can’t be legal penalties, but we can certainly exert public pressure on anyone who decides to set up their own backdoor arms dealership.

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I agree with the line about how the seller should’ve done due diligence. I’d go even farther and say if someone who would fail a background check is sold a gun by someone outside of the background check system, that person should take on some of the liability for the damage caused. If you give a kid the keys to the car and they go around running people over, you’re responsible for that too. What ever happened to personal responsibility for the sellers?

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Well, I am all for finding out who he bought the piece from and doing some public shaming. God damn this makes me mad.

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Try getting insurance on that. I dare you. LOL

Why? He didn’t break the law.

The law is the problem here. If billy bob sells a rifle at a yard-sale and it’s perfectly legal, he’s neither equipped nor qualified to run background checks.

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Sadly, true, apparently. Seems fairly straightforward to legislate that you can own a gun, but you cannot sell or give that gun to another individual outside of direct family inheritance. You can get a prescription for a controlled drug, but it is illegal to resell that drug to a 3rd party…seems like same/same to me.

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You mean he used a loophole in our broken gun laws to avoid the background check? The loopholes created so that the NRA and its priesthood could yell “see, a background check wouldn’t have stopped this”???

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This is nothing a few thoughts and prayers won’t fix. Or maybe throw in a shibboleth and a concept or two.

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On reading that article, I had a momentary fantasy that doubling the tariffs would cause the Congress to remember that this is actually their job. But then I remembered the Moscow Mitch (offense definitely intended, Mitch) was in charge of the Senate and wouldn’t do anything. I also realized that if Congress actually showed a spine on this that he would declare it an issue of national security so that he could get away with it.
Evidently, whatever School of Business for the Children of Wealthy Donors that he “attended” had no requirements or understanding economics.

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Of course not, that is the whole point of the “Gun Shows” no background checks. Funny is that here in Georgia, loaded guns are not allowed at the gun shows, wonder why, wasn’t guns supposed to make a place safe?.

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Different legal assumptions. Guns are property. Traditionally, once you own property, you have full license to do whatever you want with it.

Medications have gone a different regulatory route-- heck, in theory, if you keep those painkillers around, you’re not authorized to use them after the prescription period has expired.