There’s a deep irony in the accusations against Joe Biden that President Trump’s pressure campaign on Ukraine sought to substantiate.
This is a companion discussion topic for the original entry at https://talkingpointsmemo.com/?p=1255754
This is a companion discussion topic for the original entry at https://talkingpointsmemo.com/?p=1255754
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I hope Putin gives him a really crappy Dacha in 2021
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Of course he saw value, it’s Trump’s way…use people to do corrupt things, or put pressure on others to get what he wants, is a well worn thread in his business practices. It shouldn’t be a surprise that he surrounded himself with corrupt people, and uses them to try to get what he wants from other nations. What we really need to know is where else this is happening around the world, because it’s unlikely that Trump has only been doing this in Ukraine…it may be happening through his businesses, supported by government interventions. That needs to be investigated.
I’m also thinking that someone should look into Solomon, his articles are basically propaganda jobs to push the narrative and allow these interventions…why he’s doing it, and if he’s getting paid in some way for doing so, are things we should know. It’s ironic that Trump talks all the time about the corrupt press printing fake news, when he’s been using that to push all his corrupt activities.
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It’s more than just Trump’s corruption. It’s the type(s) of the corruption:
To dominate, in vectors which simply continue and increase.
Corruption was rife with the Post Civil War presidents… and with people like Harding, etc. But Trump knows no bounds. In fact, his success at achieving the corruption with the depth, amount and pervasiveness that has occurred has finally awoken enough people in the actual government to come forward and say, “No More”.
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Somewhere behind all of this is the story of how Trump and Putin rigged the election for Zelensky on a number of levels.
Just for one small example: It cost $70K to put your name on the ballot. In Kyiv, that’s enough to buy a decent apartment… Somehow a no-name guy with no apparent large amounts of cash floating around coughed that up to act as a spoiler.
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No moral compass. It is and always has been about him.
His father never found worth with him, and his mother …well, she just gave up.
Trump fought his way to false status and knows, at 3am every dark night, he is nothing more than his bluster.
What at loooooosseerrrrr.
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fuck up a wet dream: (Adult / Slang)
(Expression) An expression of frustration used for someone that cannot do anything correctly, an expression for actions of person or object unable to perform adequately in a given situation or circumstance,usually used with the auxiliary verb “could”.
(origin unknown)
Usage: 1.Our supervisor could fuck up a wet dream.
2.There goes Billy, fucking up a wet dream!
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I posited yesterday on another thread that trump’s betrayal of the Kurds was part of his repayment to Putin, it seems that Digby agrees with that speculation https://www.salon.com/2019/10/15/was-trumps-syria-pullout-just-an-impulsive-decision-or-another-favor-for-putin/
cheatolini does a lot of stupid things, but he isn’t totally stupid, he’s feral and we need to remember that. He’s not a strategic thinker, but he is a transactional one and he knows that he owes Putin (and probably needs to defend himself against what Putin has on him). The fact is that he is always willing to throw people to the wolves in furtherance of his own ends.
He’s totally amoral and has a crude cunning,he must be approached and attacked as one one would any rabid animal. Keep that in mind as impeachment and election season proceed.
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the real irony is that rather than fighting corruption, Team Trump is engaged in it – and once Trump is out of office, Ukrainian prosecutors will probably want to go after all sorts of US officials who played a role in the efforts to extort the Ukrainian government.
One stumbling block – the US does not currently have an extradition agreement with Ukraine.
And I’ll give $10 to any presidential candidate who says that getting such an agreement with Ukraine will be a top priority!
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A toss-up:
Which is the most ironically named scandal vehicle?
Monkey Business or Fraud Guarantee?
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“It boils down to this: while claiming that Biden abused his office to corruptly fire a prosecutor whose investigation supposedly threatened his son, Trump found political benefit from two successive corrupt Ukrainian prosecutors, boosting them and allegedly trying to protect one from firing.”
Well, that and Trump abused his office to corruptly fire an FBI Director whose FBI investigation threatened Trump.
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The Monkeys were never incorporated.
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Pretty weird how guys who work for free for Trump keep getting into huge legal trouble.
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Ukraine and Syria.
Russia steps in where trump fears to tread.
Thanks donald. Now go play some golf. Be a good little boy and don’t drive yer cart on the green/
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Indeed. And how do we think Turkey will react when its fellow NATO members decide to do things like levy tariffs on steel or take other action to thwart and punish their second genocide? Think Turkey might leave NATO and tell us to get our military bases out of their country?
Putin is smiling from pointy ear to pointy ear.
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Putin told him in no uncertain terms. No strategy needed. “What do you need to spend the money on troops there for, Donald”? Tell him that his supporters don’t want “endless war.” Done.
I do think that’s it’s getting pretty hard to pretend to ignore the fact that every fucking thing he does benefits Putin for even the Vichy GOP these days.
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The Russians are already occupying our bases in Syria. Wonder if the the troops had time to pack up? Also, according to Rachel last night, we still had soldiers there who couldn’t get out. I didn’t see anything in the news about it today.
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I heard a former ambassador say that this is the worst foreign policy blunder in 70 years … that’s including Vietnam, according to my bad math skills.
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